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..the new ROSE season 2020...

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  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    Fabulous @edhelka
    … I must check my St Anne's because I haven't noticed those...
    ...love Belle de Crecy, I wish I had got that one instead of 'Ipsilante' which I didn't like at all, and is now gone.. 
    East Anglia, England
  • FlyDragonFlyDragon Posts: 834
    edited May 2020
    B3 said:
    How come you can plant roses near each other and they grow fine but have replant  disease if you replace a rose? 

    Rose replant disease is believed to be caused by a build up of pathogens/micro organisms in the soil over time. If you pull out a rose and plop a new rose in the same spot where these have built up they will cause problems for the new rose. It's particularly susceptible because it hasn't had chance to establish itself yet and it's been placed in an area with an already high concentration of nasty things.

    If you plant a rose, near another rose, but not in the exact same spot that it's had its roots in, then the concentration of these nasties will be much lower. The highest concentration will be in the soil that's in direct contact with the roses roots.
    Can I ask some advice?

    Last year I got my rose planting wrong, I've planted two floribundas behind 2 taller roses that I think are hybrid teas, the floribundas are going to be hidden every summer! 

    If I pull all four out this autumn and swap them over, am I just going to get 4 dead roses for my trouble, and a spot where I can't plant any more for years?
  • edhelkaedhelka Posts: 2,351
    @Marlorena I am now curious, what you disliked about 'Ipsilante'? 'Belle de Crecy' has a lovely colour and should stay manageable but it also has a lot of china blood. I would love to also have some pure-blooded gallica and had eyes on 'Belle sans Flatterie' for some time. I remember you also used to have 'Charles de Mills' which I think is the finest of them but not for my current garden, how was it, too big and/or too suckering?
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    ...you deserve it Adrian, after what you went through earlier..  may I ask what's underneath your balcony or how solid it is?  I always worry about weight and whether I might be damaging something structural... pots get very heavy don't they?.. 

    @edhelka
    ...I was so disappointed because the blooms were misshapen and scentless and I understood it to have a strong scent.. it would have got better with age, but I haven't got time or space to experiment with once bloomers like that, I want to be hit with scent straight off, otherwise I lose interest... I try many, every year different ones,  but can't keep them all unfortunately..

    East Anglia, England
  • edhelkaedhelka Posts: 2,351
    I think I have a soft spot for gallicas. Some other old once-bloomers too. I am willing to have some of them and forgive them the once-blooming and other imperfections. Maybe it's sympathy for the underdogs of roses, maybe I like how different they are, I am not sure. I hoped to visit Mottisfont garden this year and have a good look on many of them :( I hope I will one day.
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