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..the new ROSE season 2020...

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  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    sarinka said:
    The colours on Nollie's The Prince and newbie's Ebb Tide and also Bathsheba- stunning.

    Yes indeed. Breath-taking.
  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    Munstead Wood, in the ground, roots in the shade, is an absolute water and food hog here @Marlorena, needs constant pushing to bloom well. Funnily enough The Prince, in a pot, isn’t a water hog, which is pleasing but puzzling! Not a DA, but I’ll be interested to see how the dark red Francis Dubreuil/Barcelona does here and compare it with yours next year. 
    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • when moving existing roses now, is it better to also prune them at same time now or just move them and then leave the pruning until Feb say?
    Just another day at the plant...
  • @edhelka I was hoping the rose be it Alfred de Dalmas or Mousseline would be a repeater, I suppose it makes sense the later date would be the repeater but to be honest I didn't know.  I had a few mosses on my list too, I really wanted Pelisson but couldn't think where to fit it in and didn't want to pot it in case it wasn't a good repeat flowerer.  I have William Lobb but it's at the back of a border and I don't think it is very mossy.  I wanted some small ones so I could have them close up and poke at the moss. Ended up choosing this one and Dresden Doll.
    Wearside, England.
  • Lizzie27Lizzie27 Posts: 12,494
    I also need to know please whether I should bubble wrap my pots with roses in, I've just done the one in a tall metal pot (I shall be planting this one soon) but have another 3 in terracotta frost proof pots. We don't usually get very hard frosts for long here.
    North East Somerset - Clay soil over limestone
  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    I’ve recently moved half a dozen roses @owd potter and pruned about a third off to make it easier and reduce the possibility of being poked in the eye! Opinions vary, but personally I wouldn’t go any lower than that as I like to leave some structure with enough cane to sustain the rose over winter. Then tidy up/prune further back if necessary at the usual time in early Spring cutting off the dead tips that have died back. 

    I have a question about newly potted up bare roots (in DA type 6L pots) and new cuttings. They are in my unheated poly which is absolutely not frost free. A hard, cold winter is forecast both in the UK and here. Is it wise to wrap the pots in bubblewrap or similar for extra insulation or doesn’t it matter if the roots freeze a bit? I have grown on bare roots in 6L pots before, but it occurred to me these were February deliveries, this is the first time I’ve bought just as we are heading into winter...
    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • OmoriOmori Posts: 1,674
    I would cut back by 1/3 as well, if nothing else, it's too ungainly to try to move a large shrub without injuring yourself. Well for me anyways! I had a long cane of Ferdinand Pichard whack me in the head while moving it the other day (unpruned), was like being hit in the head with a serrated knife  :s 

    For the rest of the roses I need to move, I will definitely be cutting them back...

  • Not especially useful now but I’d do the same as Nollie and Omori suggested!

    Prune back a bit to make it easier to move if necessary but then leave any further pruning til the usual time.
    East Yorkshire
  • @Nollie@Omori, yep I get the need to trim large shrubs before trying to move them, I have moved a couple of smallish roses, Claire Marshall and a couple of unknown patio type roses, which did not present any difficulties due size but they are looking a little unkempt and i'm itching to get stuck into pruning them to tidy.
    Patience Potter, patience...
    Just another day at the plant...
  • edhelkaedhelka Posts: 2,351
    @Victoria Sponge I am looking forward to seeing your AdD/M next year. I had these on my list: Alfred de Dalmas, A Longues Pédoncules (this should tolerate some shade and poor soil but it grows big), Dresden Doll, Soupert et Notting and Souvenir de Pierre Vibert. But this was my longlist and in the end, I haven't bought any.
    I got two flushes from my James Veitch this year.
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