'Bathsheba' still has a few good blooms... Jude the Obscure and Lady of Shalott also have lots of buds to open.. Tottering by Gently... also produces lots of hips..
.still mild where you are?..... this Candytuft - I have several different ones, Iberis sempervirens 'Appen Etz' is always my first to flower, usually mid January.. so 2 months early... with Erigeron.. Geranium 'Matt Frei' has a long season.. Parahebe 'Porlock' a week ago, but still flowering..
So a couple of weeks ago I started cutting back my overgrown honeysuckle on the pergola, This was it in July. Then I found a rose growing behind it and, perhaps incited by Mrs P'S comment "maybe it's time for a change?", I may have got a bit carried away with my pruning, So I now have taken the plunge into roses and have Generous Gardener climber on order, to fill the space which is due sometime before the end of the month. In preparation I have cleared a space of about 90x90 cm of perennials, dug a planting hole of about 50x50x50cm, added BFB in the base of the hole and backfill together with farmyard manure. Most of the large honeysuckle roots within the planting hole I have removed, but I'm wondering whether I need remove the remaining roots as far back as I can and perhaps even the remaining stumps, will these be a problem for the new rose to establish? cheers Owd
..this is what I would do with that... I would not be happy with that hole, as it seems too far out from the post.. presumably you wish to train the rose up the post and fan train on the trellis... I would want to take that hole back towards the post, removing whatever I find there, and digging it over.. probably as much as another foot back.. I would want to centre the bare root rose at the point where you have the back wall of your hole just behind the spade, currently... as it is it will be centred in the middle of the hole, which is some way from the support.. ...The Generous Gardener throws up 10 to 15 foot canes when established.. those shoots will appear at ground level favouring the side facing towards the sun, East to South... if that hole and trellis is East or South Facing, then the shoots will appear on the camera side if you follow, so they grow towards the sun, and will be awkward to then train back to the trellis, as it's some way from it.. I wouldn't like that look personally, which is why I would take the hole further back..
If that area is North facing then it may be o.k. as the shoots will aim towards the trellis, i.e. towards the South.. However, I don't like leaving a whole load of roots still in there..
Many thanks @Marlorena, very useful comments as always and much appreciated. Does create a bit of a problem though. My intention was to train as you say. The pergola is east facing, so yes, I follow your point re shooting and growth habit. Problem will be moving the hole back any more adjacent the post. It is already back as far as concrete post footing will allow, so the only way I could envisage getting the rose closer to the pergola would be to also move it to the right, where the honeysuckle stump currently is, centering it between the 2 posts and then perhaps add a further lower trellis panel to train the rose to if necessary?
@owd potter ...in that case, as it's problematic, just plant in the hole you've created... it's more personal preference than anything else... you can make do with that and work around it as the rose grows... not something to concern yourself with too much, and the rose will find its way through all that.. it's a bit slow out of the gate anyway that rose, so don't expect too much in the first year...
@owd potter, all that digging must have been hard work.
I removed a patch of snowberry. Dug up and pulled out as many roots as possible. Luckily soil is soft right now. Took me two days and back breaking work. I could make space for three roses. Not the best location as it is in shade but it is what it is. hopefully i will be able to control snowberry's regorwth but just pulling our new plants.
The weather has been lovely for November so some of my roses think it’s spring. This Munstead Wood trio lost most of it’s leaves to disease by the end of summer, largely because it was in front of a far too dominant Salvia Guaranitica that overshadowed it. I removed the salvia and cleared up around and now the roses have lots of new growth:
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
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Tottering by Gently... also produces lots of hips..
.still mild where you are?..... this Candytuft - I have several different ones, Iberis sempervirens 'Appen Etz' is always my first to flower, usually mid January.. so 2 months early... with Erigeron..
Geranium 'Matt Frei' has a long season..
Parahebe 'Porlock' a week ago, but still flowering..
So I emailed back to say cancel the whole order as I'll reorder another time when they do have that in.
Then I found a rose growing behind it and, perhaps incited by Mrs P'S comment "maybe it's time for a change?", I may have got a bit carried away with my pruning,
So I now have taken the plunge into roses and have Generous Gardener climber on order, to fill the space which is due sometime before the end of the month.
In preparation I have cleared a space of about 90x90 cm of perennials, dug a planting hole of about 50x50x50cm, added BFB in the base of the hole and backfill together with farmyard manure.
cheers
Owd
...The Generous Gardener throws up 10 to 15 foot canes when established.. those shoots will appear at ground level favouring the side facing towards the sun, East to South... if that hole and trellis is East or South Facing, then the shoots will appear on the camera side if you follow, so they grow towards the sun, and will be awkward to then train back to the trellis, as it's some way from it..
I wouldn't like that look personally, which is why I would take the hole further back..
If that area is North facing then it may be o.k. as the shoots will aim towards the trellis, i.e. towards the South..
However, I don't like leaving a whole load of roots still in there..
Does create a bit of a problem though.
My intention was to train as you say. The pergola is east facing, so yes, I follow your point re shooting and growth habit.
Problem will be moving the hole back any more adjacent the post. It is already back as far as concrete post footing will allow, so the only way I could envisage getting the rose closer to the pergola would be to also move it to the right, where the honeysuckle stump currently is, centering it between the 2 posts and then perhaps add a further lower trellis panel to train the rose to if necessary?
...in that case, as it's problematic, just plant in the hole you've created... it's more personal preference than anything else... you can make do with that and work around it as the rose grows... not something to concern yourself with too much, and the rose will find its way through all that.. it's a bit slow out of the gate anyway that rose, so don't expect too much in the first year...
I removed a patch of snowberry. Dug up and pulled out as many roots as possible. Luckily soil is soft right now. Took me two days and back breaking work. I could make space for three roses. Not the best location as it is in shade but it is what it is. hopefully i will be able to control snowberry's regorwth but just pulling our new plants.