All that’s left of my Lady Emma Hamilton, all the other canes died. Foot there for size reference. I wonder if she’s going to bounce back. Replacement on the way in November though either way.
Marlorena’s assessment is accurate. She had a lovely scent one of the best in my garden. Lady of Shalott has a much lighter scent but has very pretty flowers and they’re different enough from LEH for me not to regret getting both in a small garden.
I saw your question about scent @Marlorena and went out to check this morning but either they weren’t putting out much or my nose was slightly blocked so couldn’t really say! I’ll try again
Just come back in, had an evening sniff but too hard to tell with those two. I haven’t really managed to get much scent out of Gabriel Oak at all yet. I couldn’t tell you what it smells like. Emily Bronte has a lovely scent though.
None of the roses had much scent now, not surprising at this time of day, except for Bathsheba and The Generous Gardener. The Generous Gardener smelled as strong as ever and had a fantastic scent. Maybe that’s because it’s North facing so retained it through the day better?
Loved popping out in the evening, the colours look so vivid and seem to glow. Wasn’t sure if the effect would come through on camera but it has quite well.
@Pianoplayer I have only two of the roses in question and still convinced that I couldn't chose one over another. Lady Emma grows quite low but wide, a bit fountain way. It has lovely dark stems, and red tinted young leaves which I adore. Lady of Shalott grows taller and slimmer, typical bush rose I guess. Smells is a matter of taste, but I prefer Emma's all the way, it is also stronger. Petals of Lady Emma can be more tinted in pink, but sometimes they look so alike I cannot tell the difference. Well, most of the time;) Health wise not sure as they have different soil and conditions in my garden but LE seems to be more vigorous so far, even it grows in half shade and is covered im BS more than Shallot. Emma is more for a front of the border, Shalott for the back. Emma is perfect for the pots.
Don't have Roald Dahl, but it also looks fantastic! And if is the healthiest of the trio as @Marlorena said than I should add it for my list:D
I'm getting quite envious of all the roses others are ordering but trying to be restrained as I still have to work out where the 5 I bought last year are going to go!
@Mr. Vine Eye I don't get any scent from my Gabriel Oak 70% of the time. Quite many people seem to be disappointed about this. When it has a scent, which is usually in the morning (or not too much after noon) on a nice sunny day, it is strong complex fruity fragrance, more tropical than berries but I can't tell which specific fruit.
I am questioning my nose this year. I am not getting much fragrance from roses that should be very fragrant. I don't know if it is my nose or the weather or immaturity of the roses or something else.
I hope it's the weather... Princess Alexandra of Kent was quite strong to me (8/10) when I moved in, in 2018. In 2019, it was medium (5-6/10), never more. This year, almost nothing (2-3/10) with the exception of one day when it was extremely fragrant (9/10). It's just weird.
@edhelka - I could detect something coming from one on the newly opening flowers and I could tell that it was quite complex, but only very faint, so I couldn’t get enough of it in the nostrils to really describe it!
Right now, most of my roses smell weaker than earlier in the year - maybe the heat? As you say conditions must account for a lot of it and maybe some quirk of the individual rose too.
Maybe Gabriel will get stronger with age. Last year I was disappointed with The Generous Gardeners’ scent, I would have described it as similar to Mortimer Sackler’s in ‘flavour’ but much weaker and less complex. This year it’s much stronger, it’s like a different rose!
Thanks @Marlorena@Mr. Vine Eye@evelin for the responses. It has been very frustrating not to be able to get to see roses `in the flesh` so your comparative info is very helpful.
I've just been looking on the Tuincentrum Lottum website, again amazed on how much cheaper the roses are, but I noticed they have changed their opening times because of the heat. This begs the question about roses grown on the continent and maybe how they develop a dependency for heat to thrive, as has often been mentioned on the forum. Would it be in that case risky or even pointless ordering from them and expecting roses to thrive in the North.
A photo of one of my aged roses planted 37 years ago. Heaven knows what it is ..... my memory is not as good as it used to be.
Every year without fail it throws up 5' canes and produces big clusters of red semi double blooms. It doesn't seem to be affected by gales or torrential downpours.
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Marlorena’s assessment is accurate. She had a lovely scent one of the best in my garden. Lady of Shalott has a much lighter scent but has very pretty flowers and they’re different enough from LEH for me not to regret getting both in a small garden.
I saw your question about scent @Marlorena and went out to check this morning but either they weren’t putting out much or my nose was slightly blocked so couldn’t really say! I’ll try again
None of the roses had much scent now, not surprising at this time of day, except for Bathsheba and The Generous Gardener. The Generous Gardener smelled as strong as ever and had a fantastic scent. Maybe that’s because it’s North facing so retained it through the day better?
Loved popping out in the evening, the colours look so vivid and seem to glow. Wasn’t sure if the effect would come through on camera but it has quite well.
I have only two of the roses in question and still convinced that I couldn't chose one over another.
Lady Emma grows quite low but wide, a bit fountain way. It has lovely dark stems, and red tinted young leaves which I adore.
Lady of Shalott grows taller and slimmer, typical bush rose I guess.
Smells is a matter of taste, but I prefer Emma's all the way, it is also stronger. Petals of Lady Emma can be more tinted in pink, but sometimes they look so alike I cannot tell the difference. Well, most of the time;)
Health wise not sure as they have different soil and conditions in my garden but LE seems to be more vigorous so far, even it grows in half shade and is covered im BS more than Shallot. Emma is more for a front of the border, Shalott for the back. Emma is perfect for the pots.
Don't have Roald Dahl, but it also looks fantastic! And if is the healthiest of the trio as @Marlorena said than I should add it for my list:D
Right now, most of my roses smell weaker than earlier in the year - maybe the heat? As you say conditions must account for a lot of it and maybe some quirk of the individual rose too.
Maybe Gabriel will get stronger with age. Last year I was disappointed with The Generous Gardeners’ scent, I would have described it as similar to Mortimer Sackler’s in ‘flavour’ but much weaker and less complex. This year it’s much stronger, it’s like a different rose!