...just to say, in addition, that own root roses are soil sensitive, which is another reason they are grafted because the rootstock has been tried and tested to thrive in a variety of soils in a given area or country... some roses will not tolerate alkaline soils, others prefer it to acid... the rootstock ensures they will grow anywhere in the country... ...also it's fair to say hybrid teas from what I understand, do not thrive own root, and would likely, in the main, be weak growing plants... I don't know about Kew Gardens, I do notice it's not offered 'own root' in the States where they have an abundance of such roses... that may indicate something they are aware of..
@poppyfield64 ...your dogs were gorgeous... I bet you miss them, I know I would... but looking back on photos is always nice I think.. yes Par Sands is where we used to go.. I miss that too as I'm some way from a beach here..
...a member on HMF with whom I've corresponded in the past, and is very experienced in these matters, tells us that Munstead Wood for instance, grows better as an own root on alkaline soils in particular, and will throw up more basals grown that way... ...so if you are on alkaline, as I am, might be worth a try...
Great, thanks @Omori, @Mr. Vine Eye and @Marlorena. I’ve never tried taking a rose cutting before, so I was curious. Some further mooching on the ‘net revealed that the more vigorous the rose the better it will do on own root and a weaker rose is better grafted as it will have the boost of the vigorous root stock (according to Zimmerman) and also that you allegedly get a bushier plant and more blooms on own root - but that could be sales talk from those that sell OR.
I do have very alkaline soil, Marlorena, so maybe I should start with a few Munstead Wood cuttings!
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
My favourite nursery for own root roses, and not too far from you @Nollie .. just across the border there, is French Tea Rose aka La Roseraie du Desert... now they are hobbyists, and have been up for sale for a long time hoping to move to the U.S. so the availability of their roses is likely to be quite limited now, unfortunately... they have one of the most fabulous rose selections in Europe, of the more rare and unusual.. ..they are British/Canadian I think, so English not a problem obviously..
I've had about 8 own root roses from them in the past, all good roses with strong root systems, well packaged and not that expensive .. most did really well, I only have 1 left which is a fabulous climber, but 1 died on me in my soil conditions, 2 others did not thrive, and the rest I found were not to my liking.. but it's fun trying.. I'd really like to order a few more this winter, but I've no idea about their current situation..
I guess a case of trial and error per rose and individual conditions, but there’s really not much to lose other than time if making your own cuttings. It’s rather enjoyable I think.
I have this one that the label blew off in one of our earlier gales...I have zero recollection of what it is, and as I’m miserable at IDing roses, am leaving the buds on so I can figure it out 🙄 Maybe Boscobel... 🤔
@Omori ..it looks like it doesn't it? I'm comparing the colour in the buds, salmon pink with yellow base, the ovary under the calyx is correct shape and the foliage looks right .. but you'll know soon enough won't you, maybe tomorrow even... I notice your rose has a touch of chlorosis, so we can see how sensitive they are to growing medium..
Goodness, I wouldn’t know where to begin with their list @Marlorena, but if they are still around and I am ever over that way again, looks like it would be well worth a visit.
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...also it's fair to say hybrid teas from what I understand, do not thrive own root, and would likely, in the main, be weak growing plants... I don't know about Kew Gardens, I do notice it's not offered 'own root' in the States where they have an abundance of such roses... that may indicate something they are aware of..
@poppyfield64
...your dogs were gorgeous... I bet you miss them, I know I would... but looking back on photos is always nice I think.. yes Par Sands is where we used to go.. I miss that too as I'm some way from a beach here..
...so if you are on alkaline, as I am, might be worth a try...
.. just across the border there, is French Tea Rose aka La Roseraie du Desert... now they are hobbyists, and have been up for sale for a long time hoping to move to the U.S. so the availability of their roses is likely to be quite limited now, unfortunately... they have one of the most fabulous rose selections in Europe, of the more rare and unusual..
..they are British/Canadian I think, so English not a problem obviously..
http://www.frenchtearose.com/fr-catalogue-china-roses
I've had about 8 own root roses from them in the past, all good roses with strong root systems, well packaged and not that expensive .. most did really well, I only have 1 left which is a fabulous climber, but 1 died on me in my soil conditions, 2 others did not thrive, and the rest I found were not to my liking.. but it's fun trying..
I'd really like to order a few more this winter, but I've no idea about their current situation..
..it looks like it doesn't it? I'm comparing the colour in the buds, salmon pink with yellow base, the ovary under the calyx is correct shape and the foliage looks right .. but you'll know soon enough won't you, maybe tomorrow even... I notice your rose has a touch of chlorosis, so we can see how sensitive they are to growing medium..
http://www.thegardenacademy.com/soils-fertility/alfalfa-tea/
https://forum.gardenersworld.com/discussion/1042698/vegan-alternatives/p1
edited to say, I see you made a comment on that thread so yes you have already seen it!