@poppyfield64 ..Graham Thomas has such a rich butter yellow colour, it's worth putting up with any foliage issues... and I found that the health improved with age as it reaches semi maturity... ..when I lived in Cornwall it never wanted to grow as a climber back then.. here it was in my St. Austell garden next to my old dog... it was a fabulous rose, and I never had any issue with it in those days..
@katsa, is it possible to extend the posts of the pergola sort of sideways, I was thinking perhaps you could attach a trellis panel to the post to give the rose something to climb on. You would obviously need to do it at both ends for balance, alternatively a more substantial piece of wood than the cane you have there so that it looks like a design statement. If it was cut at an angle so it fitted snugly against the pergola post it would look as if it was always meant to be there.
@Victoria Sponge I didn’t know you had Golden Gate, I’m considering it as a cheery and fragrantly wafty climber for outside my kitchen window. It would be planted against a never-flowering honeysuckle hedge. How is it’s vigour and disease resistance? It might lack some airflow at the base, so not sure if this, or anything else, might be a blackspot/mildewed mess.
Please, if anyone has any thoughts or alternative vigorous climbing rose suggestions to inject a bit of colour here I’m all ears! Here is the view, the foreshortened photo doesn't show it but there is about 2m grassy corridor between the hedge and the woodshed against the house wall:
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
@Omori ...thanks so much... Hazy's ashes are buried in my garden here in East Anglia, beneath the Tottering by Gently rose.. perhaps that's why it's doing so well..
@Nollie ...I'm not clear where you want the rose to go?.. haven't you got Mme A Carriere for that?..
Hello @Nollie, Golden Gate is both cheery and wafty. A nice normal rose scent.
I would describe it as both vigorous and robustly heathy, a rose doesn't have to be pristine for me but mine has large sweaty perennials at the base and I've never noticed any bad issues with the foliage (and I don't spray).
Here is a pic from last year, probably at its largest. It is one of my longest flowering roses, a little sparse mid summer perhaps. Blush Noisette is on the right of it here but only taking up about half a panel when this pic was taken.
I dont know how it will fare with your conditions, conditions here at worst are cold, extremely wet and windy.
Some close up photos of foliage, new growth, thorns and old flowers:
@micearguers The difference with alfalfa is this (shortened from Wiki) -
'Triacontanol was first isolated in 1933 from alfalfa wax....Triacontanol is a growth stimulant for many plants, most notably roses, in which it rapidly increases the number of basal breaks.'
The problem is Triacontanol is a fatty alcohol and you must isolate it for it to be of benefit...whether this happens via dried pellets being broken down in the soil, I don't know, but it’s good for the garden even without the Triacontanol. It may be that the fermentation process when making the tea helps free up some of the Triacontanol. In which case, for this, you would ferment the alfalfa with water and a small amount of treacle to help the fermentation process, until it's nearly black, dilute, and use as a foliar spray. Apparently, it pongs. Would need to do more research on this.
I think the best thing to do would be make a control, using rooted cuttings from the same rose, so you're using clones. Perhaps, two control, and two sprayed with the tea. Then you could see if it really works or not.
...interesting colour co-ordination going on there Victoria, in your first picture... pure happenstance I imagine but it does reflect the colours on your Alliums.. [I'm still trying to figure out what it is...]
Thanks for your suggestions. I did some digging and there's about 2inches of sand under the pebbles and then concrete, so @Marlorena's 's suggestion isn't going to work. Instead, I'm adapting @Suesyn's suggestion and will buy a garden arch, cut it in two and then attach it to the pergola. That way the SAG can grow up and over the arch and onto the pergola. It'll create a mini rose tunnel, as I'm going to move SAG over by about a foot and then plant another climber for the other half of the arch.
@Marlorena, Hazy looks like a wonderful dog. I had to leave my dog in Canada when I moved. He was a german shepherd, collie cross (possibly with some lurcher). Such a well behaved dog. I never had to put him on a lead (unless there were squirrels). When I moved, I gave him to my aunt who was living on a horse farm at the time. He spent his dotage with three other dogs with 50acres of land. His ashes are now buried under a rose in my folks garden in Bath. I should probably ask which one it is as when they move, I'll want to dig them up...
I was amused your neighbours matched their sun parasol to your scheme for you too @Victoria Sponge .
Gorgeous dog @Marlorena. I miss ours all the time. Thank you for the compliment. It is my latest attempt to make a gravel square over a soakaway presentable.
@Katsa Your garden looks lovely. Maybe a panel of trellis on your post spanning the gap would look more logical now but give it a year and you won't be noticing it much either way. Edit, your solution sounds great too
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..Graham Thomas has such a rich butter yellow colour, it's worth putting up with any foliage issues... and I found that the health improved with age as it reaches semi maturity...
..when I lived in Cornwall it never wanted to grow as a climber back then.. here it was in my St. Austell garden next to my old dog... it was a fabulous rose, and I never had any issue with it in those days..
Please, if anyone has any thoughts or alternative vigorous climbing rose suggestions to inject a bit of colour here I’m all ears! Here is the view, the foreshortened photo doesn't show it but there is about 2m grassy corridor between the hedge and the woodshed against the house wall:
...thanks so much... Hazy's ashes are buried in my garden here in East Anglia, beneath the Tottering by Gently rose.. perhaps that's why it's doing so well..
@Nollie
...I'm not clear where you want the rose to go?.. haven't you got Mme A Carriere for that?..
I would describe it as both vigorous and robustly heathy, a rose doesn't have to be pristine for me but mine has large sweaty perennials at the base and I've never noticed any bad issues with the foliage (and I don't spray).
Here is a pic from last year, probably at its largest. It is one of my longest flowering roses, a little sparse mid summer perhaps. Blush Noisette is on the right of it here but only taking up about half a panel when this pic was taken.
I dont know how it will fare with your conditions, conditions here at worst are cold, extremely wet and windy.
Some close up photos of foliage, new growth, thorns and old flowers:
Hope that helps!
@micearguers The difference with alfalfa is this (shortened from Wiki) -
'Triacontanol was first isolated in 1933 from alfalfa wax....Triacontanol is a growth stimulant for many plants, most notably roses, in which it rapidly increases the number of basal breaks.'
The problem is Triacontanol is a fatty alcohol and you must isolate it for it to be of benefit...whether this happens via dried pellets being broken down in the soil, I don't know, but it’s good for the garden even without the Triacontanol. It may be that the fermentation process when making the tea helps free up some of the Triacontanol. In which case, for this, you would ferment the alfalfa with water and a small amount of treacle to help the fermentation process, until it's nearly black, dilute, and use as a foliar spray. Apparently, it pongs. Would need to do more research on this.
I think the best thing to do would be make a control, using rooted cuttings from the same rose, so you're using clones. Perhaps, two control, and two sprayed with the tea. Then you could see if it really works or not.
@Marlorena, Hazy looks like a wonderful dog. I had to leave my dog in Canada when I moved. He was a german shepherd, collie cross (possibly with some lurcher). Such a well behaved dog. I never had to put him on a lead (unless there were squirrels). When I moved, I gave him to my aunt who was living on a horse farm at the time. He spent his dotage with three other dogs with 50acres of land. His ashes are now buried under a rose in my folks garden in Bath. I should probably ask which one it is as when they move, I'll want to dig them up...