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..the new ROSE season 2020...

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  • pitter-patterpitter-patter Posts: 2,429
    Thank you, @Marlorena. I’ve bought it in a local garden centre. They had lots of roses on sale so I bought three: Chinatown, Love Never Dies (beautiful, healthy red rose) and this Alpine Sunset. 

    I’ve looked at some photos of Silver Jubilee and it does look similar. The petals are quite thick and very curved back, forming tiers as the rose opens. 
  • edhelkaedhelka Posts: 2,351
    edited August 2020
    @newbie77 What can I say about Silas... beautiful foliage, really good fragrance. Blooms have many of these delicate thin petals, it soaks a lot of water and they nod a lot, get some rain damage and don't last long. A lot of potential in that rose but hard to say how it matures. I just checked anomaly maps for July and we had something like 170% of average rainfall, 20+ days with some rainfall... hard to judge roses in these conditions.
    At the moment, it's between flushes and it grows a big and thick basal cane.
    Here it is behind the Empereur Charles IV., that cane is almost a meter tall already (no edit photo, dark and grey as the weather).

  • Mr. Vine EyeMr. Vine Eye Posts: 2,394
    @Marlorena

    Well you’ve more than earned the right to step back a bit. You obviously love advising/helping and you’re great at it. Must say there’s been a few times recently when I’ve had a question about something and though about messaging you to ask but then said to myself ‘no leave her alone she’s busy enough!!’ As I know you’re in high demand!

    When people start using you like Google it’s time to tell them to bugger off!

    Its what happens when you’re really knowledgable about something. I get the same thing at work because I’m thought of as the IT Wizard so I’m called on constantly to help others (not actually what I’m paid to do) and I do happily because I mostly enjoy it and I like helping people. But it can occasionally feel a burden.

    You’re fantastic though. You helped me make my first choices of roses, I was rereading that thread the other day and photos and information that you’ve shared of your own garden have inspired a lot of my other planting choices too.

    Im really pleased with my garden, which is all still relatively new, and a lot of the things that I’m most happy with came from discussions with you. I’m now passing some of that on when answering questions on Facebook etc. 

    Inspiring - that’s the word!

    There’s a lot of love for you here obviously.

    I wasn’t going to join in as I thought you’d had enough compliments for one day! 😉
    East Yorkshire
  • newbie77newbie77 Posts: 1,838
    @edhelka,
    Thanks for all the feedback and photo of SM. I am thinking of getting rose food from DA next year and was thinking about whether to get one of these new roses. I think i won't order SM.
    Emperor Charles does look lovely and i like deeper colours. It is on my wish list.



    South West London
  • OmoriOmori Posts: 1,674
    @evelin Mutabilis is one I keep meaning to get, I love it too, such a special rose. 
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    @evelin
    ..I've had both Mutabilis and Bengal Crimson, both lovely and unusual roses... Mutabilis grew huge here over some years... be prepared for that..

    @Mr. Vine Eye
    ..oh gosh thanks so much, so kind of you to post that.. and I'm looking forward to seeing how your garden progresses next year.. so don't spend too much time on Facebook, you will be much needed in this parish too... next year will be a fabulous year in your garden..

    ...hot week ahead for most of us I think.. hope you all get to enjoy it if you can.. dry as a bone here, my dog could roll in the dust.. 
    East Anglia, England
  • evelinevelin Posts: 18
    @Omori, you have to, it's so special. I've been in love with it before I even had a garden and after I have to wait few years to get it. But first Love was Bengal Crimson, seen it even longer time ago before Mutabilis, in Chelsea Physic Garden although I learned its name years later.

    @Marlorena, I am prepared, indeed:D But Bengal can also get very big,I was shocked when I've seen some pictures from Dan Pearson old London Garden. Not sure if I got enough space. Do you remember from which suppliers yours came?

    @edhelka, like your Empereur Charles IV. Didn't know this rose, until now. Lens.
    That would explain. From Lens I got Gret's Joy, climber. Like it, it looks much better than on pictures, it's got a nice button eye. But, thanks to you I discovered another rose on his website, that I like a lot: Edouard Vermeulen

    BTW Anyone knows Edith Holden? Manage to get one, finally, but its rather slow growing, and it's more like trying to keep it alive then enjoying it. Second season, and still on the verge between life and death. Love the flowers though. Would like to get Iris Webb, but unfortunately, nowhere to be seen. 

    Very dry in here as well. 

  • edhelkaedhelka Posts: 2,351
    @evelin I love Mutabilis but I've never had her. I think she would blackspot here a lot. But I am considering getting one of her Lens hybrid musk seedlings, Plaisanterie.
    I only have one china rose, Archduke Charles. It's small so far and slow-growing but I am willing to be patient. It starts pink and ages to crimson.
  • OmoriOmori Posts: 1,674
    Yes size is the reason I haven’t put in Mutabilis yet, I need to prepare the ‘here be dragons’ part of the garden, where there’s room for it to get big if it wants. First saw it about 15 years ago and still on my mind lol
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