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..the new ROSE season 2020...

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  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    @newbie77
    ...just spread the tea amongst several roses then one doesn't get too much... especially if you plan to do this on a regular basis.. instead of all that tea going to land fill..  my experience is that it does no harm, and likely some good from what I see and gathered from research...  there's no set amount, so spread it about..
    East Anglia, England
  • weekly Silas Marner update lol



    It’s coming along nicely and now has 3 buds that look like the above, with about 12 more on their way. Foliage is probably the prettiest and healthiest of all my roses, although it does seem to randomly drop the odd leaf now and then.

    @Marlorena you were right when you said you thought it was a potted rose. My Gabriel Oak which was a bare root bought the same day is much further behind.



  • newbie77newbie77 Posts: 1,838
    @Marlorena, thank you. I really appreciate you read and reply to questions lost behind so many messages too. i will keep it distributing among couple of roses who could do with some help so no one gets too much  :)

    i used to put teabags in compost bin and now i feel like emtying it put and fishing for the ones added there  :D
    South West London
  • @newbie77 or it's an excuse to drink more tea 
  • @newbie77 or it's an excuse to drink more tea 
    I really don’t need another excuse at the moment... my home working “desk” is about two feet from the kettle lol.
  • micearguersmicearguers Posts: 646
    @Omori @Nollie @Marlorena thank you for responses! Mutabilis looks very pretty and is highly rated on helpmefind, with a great backstory:

    Mutabilis' was found ca. 1894 by the Swiss botanist Henri Correvon (August 15, 1894 Yverdon - November 5, 1939 Herisau) growing in the parks of the island of Isola Bella, one of the Borromean Islands in the Lago Maggiore, on the estate of the Gilberto Borromeo, Prince of Angera (May 18, 1859 Torino - February 28, 1941 Milano). The prince is said to have given the rose to Correvon as a gift, who named it 'Rosa mutabilis' and described it 1934. Its origins is unknown, but it was apparently already in commerce in the region of Lago Maggiore and Lago di Como.
    (https://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.2130)

    @Nollie are there some that you grow yourself and like especially?

    @Marlorena that's a great list. You mentioned Lady of Shalott before when I was looking for a rose, and I think you may have mentioned on another occasion it flowered its socks of in quite normal soil (I could be misremembering of course). It's now firmly rooted in the back of my mind. In the event I ended up with 'Westerland' which is doing very well still (no flowers yet, bit of a north aspect). Do you have favourites in that list? That question is perhaps not good in the sense that roses are like horses for courses, but could be interpreted as a rose that you cannot do without or have stuck with for a long time ...

  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    @micearguers
    ... I would still be growing nearly all those, and a lot more besides, if I had the space... I probably wouldn't grow James Austin again because it was slow to establish and lacks any real scent, just a bit of old rose, not enough to warrant the effort..
    ..Complicata is a 3 week wonder and grows huge.. very suitable for wilder areas... we are all greedy for repeat blooming roses, so all the others are favourites one way and another.. and there are any more besides...

    ...if anybody wants to try old fashioned roses in their gardens, but are put off my reports of short  bloom periods... I recommend two stalwarts.. 'Louise Odier' and 'Jacques Cartier'... both of which bloom continuously into autumn...  I have 'LO' currently.. and with good disease resistance..
    ...the best Mme Isaac Pereire I've ever seen is growing in a garden in Melbourne, Australia, zone 10... it's truly fantastic...
    ...Mutabilis grew huge in my garden here... 6 foot tall by 10 foot wide, and larger...  too much for  me, in the end.. but I'd love to have it back again,..

    East Anglia, England
  • OmoriOmori Posts: 1,674
    Louise Odier is fabulous!! Very vigorous, very floriferous, does need a support like an obelisk. Well mine does anyways...throws out long arching canes. You could peg them as well if you have room, I’m currently doing this because I don’t have an obelisk (yet, I need to order like 5 🙄), and you do get loads of blooms but it’s like an octopus currently. 
  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    I planted six rugosas, @micearguers, but they all died on me, I guess they didn’t like my heat/humidity. That is my main challenge, as I can and have improved my soil a HUGE amount. I haven’t tried gallicas as I prefer repeat flowering. In saying that, I have a new Moyesii Geranium, a seedling of a species rose from China, bought for it’s pretty red, single flowers and large attractive hips. I’m looking forward to seeing that. Floribundas with tough, shiny leaves seem to do best here, although some of my DAs are really coming good in year 3/4, blackspot aside.
    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
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