@bradleywood32 ...I'm delighted you asked Bradley, as it's almost my favourite rose... it's an old French Bourbon rose called 'Mme. Lauriol de Barny'... it has large sumptuous and wonderfully old fashioned scented blooms... for about a month May/June.. with scattered later blooms end July.. it's not really a repeat bloomer, so essentially an early summer rose.. ...here are a couple of pictures from last year... it will be in full flush very soon, when the weather turns a touch warmer..
...these types of roses are not for everyone... more the collector these days.. but David Austin back crosses to these old types to produce his modern roses of today, with similar bloom form...
@edhelka ..thanks, it is so nice at its best... ..as for the other 3...CB and Mrs Paul are both growing, which is the best I can say, although I'm having 2nd thoughts about where I've put them.. I'm not expecting much this season.. Florence D I've had to remove and pot up... a friend in America who has this rose told me it proliferates badly on the first flush... so I'm keeping it in a pot to watch it, and see whether I like it or not... I'm not keen on too much proliferation..
@Marlorena - ah ok, good to know. On their website they did talk about growing on their own roots so there is definitely a discrepancy there ... either way it would end up being a misplaced branch so I have removed it at the base, but it's growing out of the "knuckle" and not from below ground ...
With the suspicious foliage you noticed, there are some other "wild roses" growing in the vicinity, I don't think it's coming from the same bush but you've got me thinking now so I'll go and check :-)
Thanks again, I'm marvelling at "Strawberry Hill" at the moment. It's very "floriferous" even if the flowers fade quickly.
@celcius_kkw, ha, the ‘midnight soil thief’ sounds like a good title for a movie!
So much for the forecast rain, glorious sunshine today (don’t know why I bother reading the weather forecast, it changes so rapidly here). Really ferocious winds though, I lost several canes including a sturdy one on La Rose de Molinard that had it’s first bloom just opening ☹️
I do think Mme Lauriol de Barny is beautiful, @Marlorena. I keep reading that the old fashioned roses are tougher and more disease resistant than many modern ones, but can’t find out much about heat tolerance, which is essential here, plus I prefer repeat flowering... the garden is not small, but bed space is limited!
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
...I enjoy having roses from a bygone age, mixed in with the moderns.. they offer something unique, history and character, grace and scent, ... quite a few have long bloom seasons..
..talking of soil, I also have an excess and when I empty out my pots, a whole lot more goes on... but it manages to blend in eventually..
..I meant to say, Adrian @celcius_kkw ...you did good yesterday re the fire thing.. you might have saved lives...
I planted two potted roses today, and as usual broke some of the buds off in the process..
@peteS ...I like to keep those new shoots and tie them in, because they build up your framework and will give you flowers next summer... but of course you can cut them out if you wish, if you think you don't need them, but then it will usually produce another..
'Anne Boleyn'... has such beautiful opening buds I think..
I keep reading that the old fashioned roses are tougher and more disease resistant than many modern ones, but can’t find out much about heat tolerance, which is essential here, plus I prefer repeat flowering... the garden is not small, but bed space is limited!
They really can't be judged as one group, they can be big differences even within classes. But the fact that they survived to these days means something. Many teas and hybrid bourbons survived 100 or more years in gardens of abandoned houses or cemeteries of American south and southwest without any watering or care.
Old European once-bloomers are tough roses. Autumn damask (and that isn't even a once-bloomer) was grown by Romans in south Italy for rose oil and rose petals. Many roses like hight heat (or are OK with it). The combination of high heat, humidity and cold winters is the challenging one.
BTW I am reading In search of lost roses by Thomas Christopher, very good and interesting read for any rose enthusiast. I had to buy a physical book (no ebook available) and I don't have space for books. If anyone here wants it, I would be happy to pass it on when I finish it.
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...I'm delighted you asked Bradley, as it's almost my favourite rose... it's an old French Bourbon rose called 'Mme. Lauriol de Barny'... it has large sumptuous and wonderfully old fashioned scented blooms... for about a month May/June.. with scattered later blooms end July.. it's not really a repeat bloomer, so essentially an early summer rose..
...here are a couple of pictures from last year... it will be in full flush very soon, when the weather turns a touch warmer..
...these types of roses are not for everyone... more the collector these days.. but David Austin back crosses to these old types to produce his modern roses of today, with similar bloom form...
..thanks, it is so nice at its best...
..as for the other 3...CB and Mrs Paul are both growing, which is the best I can say, although I'm having 2nd thoughts about where I've put them.. I'm not expecting much this season..
Florence D I've had to remove and pot up... a friend in America who has this rose told me it proliferates badly on the first flush... so I'm keeping it in a pot to watch it, and see whether I like it or not... I'm not keen on too much proliferation..
With the suspicious foliage you noticed, there are some other "wild roses" growing in the vicinity, I don't think it's coming from the same bush but you've got me thinking now so I'll go and check :-)
Thanks again, I'm marvelling at "Strawberry Hill" at the moment. It's very "floriferous" even if the flowers fade quickly.
So much for the forecast rain, glorious sunshine today (don’t know why I bother reading the weather forecast, it changes so rapidly here). Really ferocious winds though, I lost several canes including a sturdy one on La Rose de Molinard that had it’s first bloom just opening ☹️
I do think Mme Lauriol de Barny is beautiful, @Marlorena. I keep reading that the old fashioned roses are tougher and more disease resistant than many modern ones, but can’t find out much about heat tolerance, which is essential here, plus I prefer repeat flowering... the garden is not small, but bed space is limited!
..talking of soil, I also have an excess and when I empty out my pots, a whole lot more goes on... but it manages to blend in eventually..
..I meant to say, Adrian @celcius_kkw
...you did good yesterday re the fire thing.. you might have saved lives...
I planted two potted roses today, and as usual broke some of the buds off in the process..
@peteS
...I like to keep those new shoots and tie them in, because they build up your framework and will give you flowers next summer... but of course you can cut them out if you wish, if you think you don't need them, but then it will usually produce another..
'Anne Boleyn'... has such beautiful opening buds I think..
Many roses like hight heat (or are OK with it). The combination of high heat, humidity and cold winters is the challenging one.