My attitude towards others is ok its others who won't listen to anyone with a different point of view
You asked for evidence to prove you were wrong and you were given it. Just out of interest has your different point of view changed at all now you've read the reasons why it's incorrect?
If you can keep your head, while those around you are losing theirs, you may not have grasped the seriousness of the situation.
What evidence was provided? My point of view hasn't changed at all I believe that if the government had picked different scientists or worded things differently the country would have taken a different approach to covid
Probably very true. It's a good thing they stuck with the leading scientists the country had to offer and not the widely discredited ones that were offering 'alternative facts'.
If you can keep your head, while those around you are losing theirs, you may not have grasped the seriousness of the situation.
Last Monday evening I attended a dinner organised for our end of year mosaic class. Of the 13, 7 had not taken up the option for the 4th Covid jab, 3 were only eligible later this month when their 6 months since the last and 3 of us had had the top up in the last month. I urged them all to take the jab the minute they were eligible to protect others, not themelves, citing their elderly parents, grandchildren with asthma and people like me due to have major surgery in the coming days.
5 of the 10 not boosted were not convinced as they don't think it's severe now. Imagine my ire when, 2 days later, one sent an email saying she had Covid so we were all points of contact! By Friday all 7 of those who hadn't had their 4th jab had Covid. I've had to be tested in order to get my surgery today.
Utter stupidity and irresponibility. Seasonal flu can have serious side effects for some patients and is not to be taken lightly. Nor is Covid, especially now we know the newer Omicron variants are very sneaky and who knows what new variants willarrive by winter?
Everyone should have all the jabs going to protect against serious illness and everyone should still be wearing masks in public places and washing their hands regularly.
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"The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
Did they? I'm sure they got very well paid to tell the government whatever they wanted to hear
I think the best thing to do is to start your own thread for your opinions since more debate in this thread will just distract from the useful information.
Maybe read up about how SAGE works before starting it though. There's plenty of reputable fact check websites available that might help too.
If you can keep your head, while those around you are losing theirs, you may not have grasped the seriousness of the situation.
I think some of you are being very unfair to Mac12, what I'm seeing is opposing viewpoints with not much discussion, and plenty of insults. Is that what we do, give people abuse because we disagree on a subject?
I think some of you are being very unfair to Mac12, what I'm seeing is opposing viewpoints with not much discussion, and plenty of insults. Is that what we do, give people abuse because we disagree on a subject?
No one has said he can't express a different opinion. But trying to undermine others is not on. This thread is 836 pages long. If you read back (should you have the time), you'll find that a great many differing views have been expressed and argued and some of us (me included) have changed their views as time has gone on and experience has shown assumptions to have been wrong. Anyone can rock up and write what they think. Why should punkdoc be disqualified from doing so just because he actually has some expertise? Say you disagree, by all means. But don't start saying who else may or may not speak if what they say doesn't fit with your views.
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If someone wants to disagree and provide evidence to support their opinion then that's fine, but suggesting everyone else is wrong and then asking them to provide the evidence, then ignoring any evidence that is provided, is very unhelpful and is just derailing the thread. On most social media now you'd get banned for posting Covid misinformation so it's nice that we get to debate it more openly here. At least read the counter-arguments though and if you still don't agree then provide accurate information why. Otherwise it's not a debate it's just trolling.
If you can keep your head, while those around you are losing theirs, you may not have grasped the seriousness of the situation.
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5 of the 10 not boosted were not convinced as they don't think it's severe now. Imagine my ire when, 2 days later, one sent an email saying she had Covid so we were all points of contact! By Friday all 7 of those who hadn't had their 4th jab had Covid. I've had to be tested in order to get my surgery today.
Utter stupidity and irresponibility. Seasonal flu can have serious side effects for some patients and is not to be taken lightly. Nor is Covid, especially now we know the newer Omicron variants are very sneaky and who knows what new variants willarrive by winter?
Everyone should have all the jabs going to protect against serious illness and everyone should still be wearing masks in public places and washing their hands regularly.
“It's still magic even if you know how it's done.”