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  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    edited June 2022
    Back in 2012/13 /14 my elderly and very frail father (in his mid 90s) was kept waiting over an hour, on one occasion nearly two hours, to be unloaded from an ambulance to A&E on several occasions ........
    and  in  2011 my 90 year old mother waited fon the floor for an ambulance for nearly 3 hours having fallen when getting out of bed in the middle of the night ... the situation is not new ... it has been exacerbated by Covid but it was happening ... the NHS has been underfunded for some years.  

    The underfunding meant that there was no provision for emergencies, such as epidemics.  

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  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219
    I'm aware critical NHS points aren't new, but is it common place in June? I thought, maybe incorrectly, that consistent issues with bed availability and unloading patients was typically an autumn/winter thing when the respiratory viruses typically hit. No a summer thing.

    I think your figure may be closer to what actually happened. The metrics behind the data are available from that page. I'm not sure it includes asymptomatic cases or cases where the symptoms were minor enough for the person not to test. I'd all but guarantee there's a guestimate out there for the total cases that far exceeds the gov site.
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  • raisingirlraisingirl Posts: 7,093
    The Covid numbers are starting to look like they may be going up again. My guess would be it's the effect of the Jubilee and all those crowds, so it could just be a short blip. I can't have been the only one looking at all those people squashed together and thinking an increase was pretty much inevitable, given the numbers are still fairly high
    Gardening on the edge of Exmoor, in Devon

    “It's still magic even if you know how it's done.” 
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    April, July, August and March were just some of the occasions @steveTu

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  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219
    ..I thought there may be some data, but all I found was this:https://www.nuffieldtrust.org.uk/resource/ambulance-handover-delays#background

    ...and that site  implies that data isn't collected in summer as part of the 'sitrep' reporting (presumably because delays aren't typically an issue? - but who knows as withouth knowing the delays in summer, how do you know how bad/good winther is?).


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  • LynLyn Posts: 23,190
    We have 35 patients in our hospital with COVID, none on ventilators and one death last week. The main reason our hospitals are full and people are waiting for beds I think is because there are so many people waiting to go home or to a home but there’s no staff for that sort of work. Blame Brexit? No! Blame greedy landlords who have sold off rented houses/ rooms to rich people to turn them into holiday homes/lets. There’s hardly anywhere now down here for people to rent, let alone for low paid workers such as care home staff. (And hospitality trade) They could put the care home workers wages up, the homes are privately run now and the fees would have to go up. Don’t ask me the best way out of it, I haven’t a clue.
    Gardening on the wild, windy west side of Dartmoor. 

  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    Bring back convalescent homes? That’s where folk who still needed some care, or who were awaiting a care package, used to go … that way they freed up the expensive hospital beds. 

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  • LynLyn Posts: 23,190
    Yes that would be good, always out in the country,  I remember my aunt going to one in Essex,  when it was countryside,  we looked after her baby for 6 months,  I cried for a week when she went home. 
    Unfortunately those times have gone for the poor old lady who broke her hip and needs care,  no staff. 
    Pour builder friend has his MIL in a lovely home,  big posh place,  best around,  local to us, they used contract staff,  they told him on the Wednesday that there would be no care for her on the Friday,  the company had declared bankruptcy they couldn’t afford to run the business,  short staffed. 
    Gardening on the wild, windy west side of Dartmoor. 

  • Allotment BoyAllotment Boy Posts: 6,774
    Or the cottage hospitals. My parents retired to Bovey Tracey in Devon.  They had a local cottage hospital,  it was closed but reopened more than once as the need was realised.  Not sure if it's still going now.
    AB Still learning

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