I really think we just have to accept that, although you can plan for pandemics, I personally wrote ICU plans for the "really bad virus" that many of us knew was coming, you cannot stockpile enough kit for something like this, I really don't believe there is blame to be apportioned.
How can you lie there and think of England When you don't even know who's in the team
Maybe not but there has to be a plan B, C and D to keep supplies coming and keep essential health personnel safe so there ought to be plans for using local suppliers to make essential kit. Decent gowns and gloves are not exactly rocket science but there seems to be a total lack of coordination so no basic approved design or standard.
One company featured on the Beeb news this evening got so fed up with form filling and lack of progress they are now making PPE to send to Ireland. Madness.
Meanwhile, councils here are ordering masks in huge quantities - surgical standard for health and care workers, fabric for the population for when lockdown is relaxed. The latter are to be worn to prevent spread of the virus by people who don't yet have symptoms as much as to protect oneself from infection.
The mayor of the town where I go for patch has appealed to all sewers to make the cotton masks for the community to speed up supply, increase availability and save lives.
Pardon my French.
Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
"The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
It strikes me that they are saying that you don't need gloves and masks, because we haven't enough for medics at the moment. I am happy to stay at home in my safe space, if it means my friend the radiographer is protected at work.
I think though the government would get even more flak if sub standard PPE was rushed into hospitals. So I can understand there is a process to signing up for production.
I'm wondering, what level of funding would have meant the NHS had enough at the outset? Twice current, three times current? I'm sure even at that level there would have been justification to divert spending elsewhere, rather than stock tons of PPE 'just in case'. It's clear that @punkdoc has it, that we could not have prepared for this. I guess though for many years into the future the NHS will always have plentiful state of the art PPE available.
When I look around right now, I just feel we should all be really proud of our country, not always bashing it.
am just waiting to be told here we have to use masks, then the sewing machine will be out!As for stockpiling PPE, it has use by dates as everything else.
Gemma, you,me and Punkdoc, lets run the NHS and the country, I used to say at work, I reckoned I could run the hospital single handed haha.Back in the 80s, its was Nursing |officers who had run the ranks, not the "sainsbury" managers. I remember a colleague getting put on a charge because her navy blue cardi had faded wasnt the "right" blue, hair off the collar, nails not past the fingers Oh, those were the days, (my friend)
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One company featured on the Beeb news this evening got so fed up with form filling and lack of progress they are now making PPE to send to Ireland. Madness.
Meanwhile, councils here are ordering masks in huge quantities - surgical standard for health and care workers, fabric for the population for when lockdown is relaxed. The latter are to be worn to prevent spread of the virus by people who don't yet have symptoms as much as to protect oneself from infection.
The mayor of the town where I go for patch has appealed to all sewers to make the cotton masks for the community to speed up supply, increase availability and save lives.
Pardon my French.
I'm wondering, what level of funding would have meant the NHS had enough at the outset? Twice current, three times current? I'm sure even at that level there would have been justification to divert spending elsewhere, rather than stock tons of PPE 'just in case'. It's clear that @punkdoc has it, that we could not have prepared for this. I guess though for many years into the future the NHS will always have plentiful state of the art PPE available.
When I look around right now, I just feel we should all be really proud of our country, not always bashing it.