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  • madpenguinmadpenguin Posts: 2,543
    edited February 2021
    Amanda Holden has a test every week and was negative,both her parents have been vaccinated so the risk was probably very small to themselves.
    Of course there is a risk involved but as I said we have no idea what the distressing phone call was about.
    Dementia,Alzheimer's,attempted suicide,depression,mental welfare,terminal illness,bi-polar etc etc.
    Just because someone looks OK in a photo does not mean they are.
    Family,rather than strangers, is sometimes the only way some people can deal with things.
    We must not be quick to judge why people do certain things.
    It was hardly an illegal rave or party.
    Just a daughter seeing her parents, and when that is seen as a bad thing I really worry.

    “Every day is ordinary, until it isn't.” - Bernard Cornwell-Death of Kings
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    Except in current circumstances!

    The whole point of social isolation is to stop the spread of the virus.  It is hard to live like this and sometime cruel but it is a matter of life or death for many and untold long term damage to others who get infected and recover.

    The more people break isolation and have contacts such as this the longer it will take to deal with the pandemic and return to normal life.   In this case it's yet another public figure setting a bad example.   There are many people who are desperate to see; let alone hug, their nearest and dearest but can't and won't be able to do so until this sort of selfish idiocy stops.


    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
  • TeTe Posts: 193
    edited February 2021
    The general feeling is that a large percentage are, saying that I believe the weather plays a big factor in people being restricted to do as they might, better warmer weather will obviously involve people wanting to go outside and meet others more, the government are against the clock so to speak, people WILL NOT obey lockdowns or restrictions especially when the weather warms up hence hurrying up the vaccines, the government are aware spring is on our doorsteps followed by summer regardless of what’s happening
    "There are a terrible lot of lies going about the world, and the worst of it is that half of them are true"
  • LoxleyLoxley Posts: 5,698
    Amanda should have been hit with a fine really, there's no excuse. The lack of visible enforcement is a problem in terms of encouraging compliance. But in my view the much bigger problem is the laxness of the rules themselves. Not in term of social isolation - in terms of all the non-essential businesses and activities carrying on with the government's blessing. Building sites, office workers, shops, garden centres (with indoor retail and cafes). Estate agents doing in-person viewings! How are they allowing all that to go on, and then telling people they mustn't meet more than one person at the park etc?
    "What is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbour". 
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    By "normal" I mean being able to go out when I want to without asking if it's essential or checking the time; visiting and receiving friends for chat/coffee/dinner etc; being able to attend dance class, patchwork club, mosaic course and garden group meetings; being able to go to a market, have coffee and/or lunch out with my husband; go to a plant fair.

    At the mo my weekly outing is the weekly shop, on my own.   I can go out to walk the dogs or post a letter but have to be home by 6pm.  I can pop round to the neighbours to take them eggs but have to stay a metre away and outside.  I can keep medical appointments and go to the vet if essential.

    It must be so much harder for people with no outside space or who have children cooped up for weeks on end so hats off to all those who do follow the rules and don't think they or their families are more important than everyone else so they can do as they like.


    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
  • TeTe Posts: 193
    But ‘what’ will the new normal be, the way I see things, the Covid virus will be the new flue, personally speaking I don’t believe it’ll disappear, so it’ll be periodic vaccines, it’ll become part of everyday life, I’d hope our scientist continue their excellent work and develop a super vaccine which once administered gives you complete immunity, don’t think this will happen for a good while yet but I’m to believe the scientist are making some headway with another vaccine that may be available at the end of the year
    "There are a terrible lot of lies going about the world, and the worst of it is that half of them are true"
  • punkdocpunkdoc Posts: 15,039
    I still don't get what is so complicated.
    Amanda Holden was negative, at the moment she was tested, she may well have become positive at any time after that, and would not have known. She is working during the week and could therefore have past it on to anybody in that time.
    If there was an emergency at home, it was likely to have been resolved by the time she had driven 200 miles.
    She was just being selfish, saying the rules don't apply to me.
    Now she has been caught, she is apologetic, because she is worried about her image.
    How can you lie there and think of England
    When you don't even know who's in the team

    S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
  • madpenguinmadpenguin Posts: 2,543
    punkdoc said:
    I still don't get what is so complicated.
    Amanda Holden was negative, at the moment she was tested, she may well have become positive at any time after that, and would not have known. She is working during the week and could therefore have past it on to anybody in that time.
    If there was an emergency at home, it was likely to have been resolved by the time she had driven 200 miles.
    She was just being selfish, saying the rules don't apply to me.
    Now she has been caught, she is apologetic, because she is worried about her image.


    So if a family member phoned you and said they were going to top themselves you would do nothing?
    “Every day is ordinary, until it isn't.” - Bernard Cornwell-Death of Kings
  • Imagine that a member of a Traveller clan had a message that one of his parents was suicidal, andhe got in his van and drove 300 miles across the country during Lockdown in the hope of preventing a tragedy ... do you think that he could expect the amount of support from the public that Ms Holden is getting?

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • madpenguinmadpenguin Posts: 2,543
    Imagine that a member of a Traveller clan had a message that one of his parents was suicidal, and he got in his van and drove 300 miles across the country during Lockdown in the hope of preventing a tragedy ... do you think that he could expect the amount of support from the public that Ms Holden is getting?
    Yes.
    “Every day is ordinary, until it isn't.” - Bernard Cornwell-Death of Kings
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