I agree @Nanny Beach my tough strapping great son who had the jab because he’s delivering prescriptions to care homes was telling me 24 hours afterwards that some of his colleagues were making a bit of a fuss about not feeling well, but he was fine, it didn’t affect him, oh no, not him, he was fine ... and then it hit him ... vomiting and 36 hours of the chills, shakes and feeling like death ...
You really couldn’t say he’d expected to feel ill.
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
As you all know, vaccine roll out has been slow here in France and they have succumbed to lobbying, hype and misinformation about the AZ - probably put out by competitors making a fortune from their vaccines and keen to discredit the not for profit (yet) vaccine which makes them look like greedy capitalists. That's as "conspiratorial" as I get on the vaccines.
OH had his first vaccine last Friday, then a "woe is me" sore arm on Saturday but it was miraculously fine for golf on Sunday. I will get my first next Friday and we'll both have had our 2nd dose by the end of May. I've been down for taking a spare slot ever since my age group became eligible but there are none so the French here are not vaccine doubters.
All i can say about @PeggyTX's views on the vaccine is that there are still people in Texas who insist the earth is flat and there is no gravity. As late as 2009 an anti-evolutionist "intelligent design" flat earther was put in charge of education in Texas. It's mind boggling.
As for the brief diversion into Shingles jabs, OH and I elected to have it as soon as it became available and before it was funded by the government in Belgium or France so we paid for it. I nursed a friend thru shingles in her 30s and decided it was something I never wanted to experience myself, especially in later age.
I did the same for Possum the minute the various hepatitis, meningitis and cervical cancer jabs became available altho in the case of meningitis and cervical cancer the health system caught up more quickly. I was keen because in my teens I had meningitis and encephalitis simultaneously as a result of a summer flu complication. Not good. No jabs for flu then but I get mine annually now.
Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
"The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
The UK has been amazing at getting jabs in arms. My daughter (a practice nurse) who gives the vaccinations at her surgery said on a good day she can vaccinate about 60 people with AstraZeneca and slightly less for Pfizer. Works 9-5.30 with a half hour break for lunch. Given that they are one of the best areas in the country for vaccinating it just goes to show how many people must be involved to get around half a million done in a single day!
“Every day is ordinary, until it isn't.” - Bernard Cornwell-Death of Kings
JoeX, that's complete insulting rubbish, I was fine for 13 hours didn't expect any reaction,and bearing in mind it's your immune system,you don't get too much say,on your reaction.I have several friends who are shocking hypercondriacs who were practically foreseeing death following the jab and had nothing at all
Its not rubbish, its a very interesting phenomenon called the 'Nocebo' affect (essentially the opposite of placebo).
Nocebo isn't the opposite of placebo, it's the same to quote "a sugar pill giving you very real reactions". I am doing the covidence Study with Professor Adrian Martineau,read what he says.I have always said "side effects" are misleading,one should say response
I'm not sure that my sore arm wasn't caused by the nurse who grabbed a handful of my upper arm and held on tight while the needle went in, and then carried on holding it. She was a bit concerned about me. Probably because I had scratch marks all up my arm as though a cat had attacked me or I had been self harming. Actually it was the brambles in the garden that fight back. I had been doing some garden tidying up before I went for the jab.
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You really couldn’t say he’d expected to feel ill.
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
OH had his first vaccine last Friday, then a "woe is me" sore arm on Saturday but it was miraculously fine for golf on Sunday. I will get my first next Friday and we'll both have had our 2nd dose by the end of May. I've been down for taking a spare slot ever since my age group became eligible but there are none so the French here are not vaccine doubters.
All i can say about @PeggyTX's views on the vaccine is that there are still people in Texas who insist the earth is flat and there is no gravity. As late as 2009 an anti-evolutionist "intelligent design" flat earther was put in charge of education in Texas. It's mind boggling.
https://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/john-farrell/2009/07/13/the-anti-evolution-movement-in-texas-highlights-idiot-america
As for the brief diversion into Shingles jabs, OH and I elected to have it as soon as it became available and before it was funded by the government in Belgium or France so we paid for it. I nursed a friend thru shingles in her 30s and decided it was something I never wanted to experience myself, especially in later age.
I did the same for Possum the minute the various hepatitis, meningitis and cervical cancer jabs became available altho in the case of meningitis and cervical cancer the health system caught up more quickly. I was keen because in my teens I had meningitis and encephalitis simultaneously as a result of a summer flu complication. Not good. No jabs for flu then but I get mine annually now.
My daughter (a practice nurse) who gives the vaccinations at her surgery said on a good day she can vaccinate about 60 people with AstraZeneca and slightly less for Pfizer.
Works 9-5.30 with a half hour break for lunch.
Given that they are one of the best areas in the country for vaccinating it just goes to show how many people must be involved to get around half a million done in a single day!
I don't judge smokers, mainly because I'm pretty sure if I ever started I'd have had a massive struggle to stop and probably not managed it.
Have a read, its fascinating the way the human mind can impact on the body!
https://www.health.harvard.edu/newsletter_article/The_nocebo_response
I had a really bad reaction to the vaccine like you. 🙄