Why appalling? Selective memory is odd isn't it? I repeat, I normally lean towards the Conservative side - but the Tory talk of what state the country was in when they took over inĀ 2010 or whenever it was, totally fails to address why and who then had caused that recession/depression. Wasn't one of the biggest worldwide depression since the 30's caused by a load of bankers trying to foist dodgy subprime deals onto unsuspecting buyers? Wasn't the problemĀ caused by the right andĀ cleaned up by the left - resulting in a massive multi billion pound bailout of the banks?
There was a very illuminating programme on the Beeb a few years before the 2008 crash which talked about the ridiculous and irresponsible loans that banks all over, but particularly in the USA and UK, were making to people who could never hope to earn the money to pay them back, especially if the market collapsed.Ā They predicted dire consequences for the lenders and the borrowers.Ā Ā
I don't recall any politicians or banks taking heed and changing practice.Ā Ā I do not understand why goevrnments chose to prop up those banks rather than let them all go to the wall like Lehmans.Ā It has cost tax payers a fortune and is still ruining lives where governments have chosen austerity rather than building their way out of recession with enlightened economic programmes.
Any fool could predict that if you starve local communities of cash to pay for social care, youth care, community prgrammes etc you will end up with even more social problems, deprivation and alienation that costs far more to fix in the long run and hurst even more people.
Just been and voted. The 3 ladies at the desk handing out the papers laughed when I looked at the paper and said " Hmm, Rocks and hard places spring to mind. We're all going to hell in a hand cart whichever of them gets in"Ā They nodded sagely,
Good for her @phillipa smith2 and you too, all votes in a democracy are important as I am sure your neighbour is old enough to know.
The ladies asked for my name @Hostafan1 so I picked up my card and read it to them! We have to ask you she said - why?Ā They seemed more upset that they had to get up at 5 this morning than at the outcome, hey ho.
"The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it."Ā Sir Terry Pratchett
Indeed so , and ironic that those who complain loudest are very often those who then say " that's why I've never voted"Ā
To which my reply would be that some politicians ( and you know who you are!) may not know much but they understand numbers.Ā I have been complaining ever since I got my vote that spoiled papers are not included in the figures. If they were it would be clear that many people are not satisfied with the choices but took the trouble to say so.
Why can't we have a 'Don't know' box and a 'What, who!' box?
And I didn't mean to imply that you do not value your vote @phillip smith2 just that your neighbour was born around the time that women and working men finally got theirs.
"The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it."Ā Sir Terry Pratchett
Yes of course it was the bankers and not the Conservatives. What i was referring to though was and is the selective memory of most Tories who keep trotting out the nonsense about the state of the economy when they took over after labour - and then steadfastly fail to face up to the issue of WHY the country was in that state.
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I don't recall any politicians or banks taking heed and changing practice.Ā Ā I do not understand why goevrnments chose to prop up those banks rather than let them all go to the wall like Lehmans.Ā It has cost tax payers a fortune and is still ruining lives where governments have chosen austerity rather than building their way out of recession with enlightened economic programmes.
Any fool could predict that if you starve local communities of cash to pay for social care, youth care, community prgrammes etc you will end up with even more social problems, deprivation and alienation that costs far more to fix in the long run and hurst even more people.
The ladies asked for my name @Hostafan1 so I picked up my card and read it to them! We have to ask you she said - why?Ā They seemed more upset that they had to get up at 5 this morning than at the outcome, hey ho.
To which my reply would be that some politicians ( and you know who you are!) may not know much but they understand numbers.Ā I have been complaining ever since I got my vote that spoiled papers are not included in the figures. If they were it would be clear that many people are not satisfied with the choices but took the trouble to say so.
Why can't we have a 'Don't know' box and a 'What, who!' box?
And I didn't mean to imply that you do not value your vote @phillip smith2 just that your neighbour was born around the time that women and working men finally got theirs.