All we can do is wait and see. One thing is clear though, whatever happens can't be blamed on other parties, dissent in their own ranks etc. They have a working majority, so get on and work.
I'm finding it fascinating reading all the comments on here and wondering why the majority of posters all seem to be anti Boris and anti the Conservative party. We're all gardeners which is why we're on this forum and presumably a cross-section of the population? Is it that the most prolific posters like to get their views across more often and the silent majority prefer not to? Or is it like-minded people like to stick together? I'm not sure but I'm finding it a bit odd.
Personally I'm overjoyed that Boris and the Conservatives have been voted back in by a large percentage of those voting yesterday. He has an enthusiasm and optimism that we sorely need after all the gloom and doom and I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for the next couple of years. I sincerely hope and pray he will be good overall for the country. I'm also very glad that Brexit will finally get done, the people who voted have confirmed they still want to leave after listening to all the arguments for and against for the last 3 1/2 years so I do not believe that anti-brexiteers can now claim that the people don't know what they are doing - that is and was just so arrogant.
I'm glad someone is cheerful, @Lizzie27 and I expect many more are as that is what was voted for. I'm an ex-pat (not that I wanted to be) and wasn't allowed to vote. I would have voted for whatever didn't get Brexit done as it's the last thing I want. My partner lives in England, I live in France, for various family reasons it is thus, so we travel to and fro. But the Tories have really run down social and medical help and increased the divide between rich and poor so I can't understand why people want them to rule.
Dordogne and Norfolk. Clay in Dordogne, sandy in Norfolk.
I'm finding it fascinating reading all the comments on here and wondering why the majority of posters all seem to be anti Boris and anti the Conservative party.
I think their appalling track record of broken promises and U-turns on almost every policy since they've been in power had something to do with it. Boris has an even worse record as a politician and his incompetency is quite worrying. Being optimistic is fine as long as it's not just crossing your fingers and hoping it doesn't work out as badly as it could. The voter turnout has been surprisingly low. I know it seemed like a
damned if you do damned if you don't kind of vote but I thought there
would have been a higher turnout just based on brexit opinions. If nothing else I'm glad that the Brexit Party and UKIP didn't do very well. At least that's a sign that people aren't responding to that kind of politics.
If you can keep your head, while those around you are losing theirs, you may not have grasped the seriousness of the situation.
The problem with Brexit was simple - it was that Brexit wasn't simple. Take a look at the House of Lords report on Brexit produced after Cameron said he'd go for a referendum.
I'd love for you to define for me what Brexit actually means. In detail - not just the bland 'oh, it means taking back our borders, money and laws' - as all of that is simplistic b*ll*cks. The great Repeal Bill took the EU laws on to the UK statute book. The laws will stay until they get abolished. Immigration - we NEED immigration. Theresa May was in charge of immigration when we had 200,000+ immigrants. But of the 200,000, 120,000 (60%) were Non-EU anyway. So if immigration in itself is bad, why didn't we close our borders to Non-EU immigration? That would have left 80,000 - in the Tory 'tens of thousands' band. As for the money, I though the UK had negotiated with the EU to keep the pound - wasn't that Maastricht?.
If Brexit was and is about 'just get it done' - then why oh why did Boris and his cabinet vote against TM's deal back in March? Doesn't that show you that even within the 'Conservative' party, there are so called 'good' and 'bad' deals? TM's bad, Boris' good - but who defines 'good' and 'bad'? You? Me? Boris? Trump defines all his deals as good - do you think they are?
As for Boris as PM - I may have continued supporting the Tories had Boris not been voted in - but anyone who tried to shut down democracy by proroguing Parliament on the back of a lie is not a fit person to be PM IMO. If Corbyn or a Labour person had tried that, the press would have been up in arms and hounded the person out of office.
I'm pretty sure Theresa was Boris's fall person, he's not keen on women with brains so she was perfect as collateral damage and I don't think he thought twice about stepping on the body on his way to the top!
I was mortified as I listened to Maggie becoming the first female PM - but this is worse, much worse. Just checking outside, no the sky hasn't fallen in yet so perhaps there's time.
"The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it." Sir Terry Pratchett
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Personally I'm overjoyed that Boris and the Conservatives have been voted back in by a large percentage of those voting yesterday. He has an enthusiasm and optimism that we sorely need after all the gloom and doom and I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for the next couple of years. I sincerely hope and pray he will be good overall for the country. I'm also very glad that Brexit will finally get done, the people who voted have confirmed they still want to leave after listening to all the arguments for and against for the last 3 1/2 years so I do not believe that anti-brexiteers can now claim that the people don't know what they are doing - that is and was just so arrogant.
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
I think their appalling track record of broken promises and U-turns on almost every policy since they've been in power had something to do with it. Boris has an even worse record as a politician and his incompetency is quite worrying. Being optimistic is fine as long as it's not just crossing your fingers and hoping it doesn't work out as badly as it could.
The voter turnout has been surprisingly low. I know it seemed like a damned if you do damned if you don't kind of vote but I thought there would have been a higher turnout just based on brexit opinions. If nothing else I'm glad that the Brexit Party and UKIP didn't do very well. At least that's a sign that people aren't responding to that kind of politics.
I was mortified as I listened to Maggie becoming the first female PM - but this is worse, much worse. Just checking outside, no the sky hasn't fallen in yet so perhaps there's time.