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..the ROSE Season...2019...

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  • Hello Marlorena, I was winding if you would be able to identify a rescue of mine please? I found it dried up having been dug up and left, two weeks prior to my arrival. I took out home and was radical and its survived but I have no clue what it is. The scent is quiet strong.
     the colour is more purple than it shows on the picture. Any thoughts please?
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    @WonkyWomble … nice rose but sorry I'm not able to identify that from the picture... I would need to see more open blooms, and on a larger plant with information as to it's flowering abilities...  there are too many purple roses with white flashes in the middle like that these days... I have some, and it's hard to tell them apart...
    East Anglia, England
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    @celcius_kkw … yes scent depends on so many things coming together... on dull days most roses don't seem to have much scent, with a few exceptions..
    ..I've often thought about England's Rose.. especially for a difficult position in the garden... but I understand the blooms don't last long on the bush...
    ...Austins are very clever with their names, aiming for certain demographics.... Lochinvar is made more for the Scottish gardener or those in the far north... as is Sir Walter Scott...both hybrids of old Scottish roses...
    …. they withstand harsh conditions enjoying frequent rain... in my experience they are not so well suited to southern, dryer gardens...  good to know about the scent though...
    East Anglia, England
  • We went to Fountains Abbey today and they had 20% off DA roses in their plant shop. 

    They also had a Jubilee Celebration and a Princess Alexandra of Kent with 50% off stickers.

    So they may be doing similarly at other National Trust properties
    East Yorkshire
  • edhelkaedhelka Posts: 2,351
    Lochinvar looks like a lovely rose for a wild and tough area.
    I agree about the names. Most people around here wouldn't buy England's Rose :) Sometimes I think that it is maybe a too limiting name. But our local garden centre always stocks Cariad and Roald Dahl roses and it looks like they both do very well in our climate. I would love to have them.
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    ...yet 'Cariad' is an English rose... this is one thing where we tend to differ in England I think in that we tend to be less sectarian, more pluralistic... if a rose was called Flower of Scotland or Clwyd, I would be more concerned about its suitability than any other reason...as any true rosarian would... should one not grow a Welsh poppy?... it all gets rather silly...

    ..earlier this year I was really annoyed with Monty Don, when he planted an Austin in his garden, he said something like.. it's called an English rose but really they're British roses...  well no, they're not actually... the late Mr Austin was very clear about his brand name, and it is a Brand not an official rose designation... but to Mr Austin they are English roses, bred and grown in England, and this brand of roses is known and loved the world over … perhaps more than on our own doorstep it seems..   Japan has a garden full of them... and they are hugely popular in the States and elsewhere..

    A little known Austin that's a really good rose is 'Charles Rennie Mackintosh'.. named after a Glaswegian, who as a young man was quite dishy and dapper with dreamy eyes...oh dear, digressing.. 
    East Anglia, England
  • They are hugely popular. I'm in a DA fan group on Facebook which has thousands of members from all over Europe, US, Thailand, Malaysia. Some people go on trips to the DA garden like it's a pilgrimage!

    The only issue with names is if a rose is named after a person, like Mortimer Sackler, who subsequently becomes controversial. I've noticed that since buying the rose they've altered the description on the website, so rather than giving details about the person, it just says the right to name this rose was auctioned.
    East Yorkshire
  • Hey guys i've put my new rustic arch up, got to do some groundwork for where the roses are going to be planted but i would like some suggestions on what David Austin Climbing roses i can plant.



    I have the following DA roses so i'd like a different one.

    The Generous Gardener
    Wollerton Old Hall
    Strawberry Hill
    Crown Princess Margareta
    A Shropshire Lad






  • edhelkaedhelka Posts: 2,351
    As someone neither English nor Welsh and as someone who lived in both England and Wales, I can afford to have a fairly neutral point of view, although I've been ridiculed before when I told some acquaintances in North East England that I am moving to Wales. And I can also feel the pain of old injustices and a huge passion for the language (and its future) and culture. It's complicated and better not go too deep into that. But in any case, people here are the friendliest and kindest I've ever met.
    Anyway, I am sure 'Cariad' is a good marketing and that's the primary reason why they decided to call it like that. But it's also a rose that does well here and I guess that went into the name too.
    I agree that calling English roses British is a bit silly. It would be like a British breakfast tea.
  • edhelkaedhelka Posts: 2,351
    Another Austin rose with a smart name is 'Snowdon', a hybrid rugosa. I guess too old and out of fashion these days, and also too big for most gardens.
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