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..the ROSE Season...2019...

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  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    @Big Blue Sky   ..those sepals are gorgeous.. I'm delighted you understood what I meant.. some are amazing, I find them quite fascinating..

    @Daniel Rutherford   I thought you might have it Daniel... it takes off in the 2nd year..

    @B3..  oh do try, it's a wonderful rose, in my top 5 really..

    Here are a few more pics... some of the blooms are huge..and the colour varies.. it has a musky scent, like tea... reckon on 8 x 8 foot with support, or 5 x 5 if freestanding..






    East Anglia, England
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    I agree with B3... clg. Arthur Bell.. a characteristic is the deeply veined foliage, clearly shown in those excellent photos..
    East Anglia, England
  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    I'm not a fan of very densely packed roses, as they look, to my eye, over-bred and somewhat fake. I like quite open cups.  I love the scent of Mustead Wood but it looks over-done to me. Does anyone else have this?

    Ena Harkness is described as a double, but when it opens you can see the centre easily. It's not packed. Gertrude etc is more like a triple.
  • Lizzie27Lizzie27 Posts: 12,494
    @Fire, glad I'm not the only one!
    North East Somerset - Clay soil over limestone
  • Thanks for the suggestions. I'll have a looking at the best way to look after it now but it doesn't seem to need much input from me which is probably a good thing.

    Photos were taken in my phone camera, for once I seemed to have focused in the right place.
  • Lizzie27 said:
    @Fire, I have Climbing Etoile du Hollande and it is a very beautiful rose, really darkish red, with a lovely perfume. It took a while to get going and I was disappointed at first because although the blooms were big, they seemed too heavy for their stems and just drooped downwards. I then put some plastic small holed netting behind it on the wall and very carefully tied the actual bloom head to the netting to give it more support. As Marlorena says, it has taken 3 years for the stems to become strong enough to support the rose.  I think it would have looked good this year but alas I had to cut it right back to 2 ft in readiness for a new fence (which I'm still waiting for!). I love it for it's shape which is more of a classic HT rose than a multi-petalled DA one. The perfume's to die for. 
    I've planted a EdH this year in bare-root form, and it's barely looking alive. Well dug in, plenty of good material, and in a raised bed with plenty of space - but while other roses planted at the same time have started to show at least some signs of growth (Paul Noel, Adelaide d'Orleans), Etoile remains stubbornly non-responsive.

    Is it just a slow-starter?
  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    Thanks @Big Blue Sky, it was nice to come home to so many blooms and buds, bit like watching for a kettle to boil, but you turn your back...
    @edhelka not just me admiring the underside of a rose then, does that trump the sepal lovers do we think?  :D
    @Fire, I like both the full and open type of blooms. I rather like the flamboyance of the multi-petalled ones and think there is room for both. I am moving more toward the open style now though

    I have been thinking of getting a climbing EdH for a while and it would probably better suit the tall wall/back of border position where G an T currently is but I don’t know, I’m quite torn. I am considering moving G an T somewhere closer, where I can admire the blooms more easily as they are so delicate and lovely. 
    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    I was seriously considering Gruss an Tepliz for ages but have have defected to the EdH side. Both are not quite dark enough for me, but I'll give it a go.
    I'm looking for a DA discount but it probably is the wrong time of year for big discounts.
  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    Yes the G an T is a lovely rose but, more a pinky red with burgundy edges. Its petals are soft and velvety and I think its loose style might suit my east cottage garden more, which is white, purple, blue, pink, and increasingly, burgundy. Looking forward to seeing your new reds in full bloom @Fire.
    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    @Nollie I put in a Crimson Glory and may have killed it. It went into the spot of another rose and the CG is either sulking, furious or giving up the ghost. :s
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