@Butterfly66 if you want a repeat flowering you have to deadhead the first lot of flowers. There's a few shrub roses that grow to about 6ft and have hips, most ramblers are very vigorous and usually have a lot of thorns,it's best to Google it or go to the gardeners world website because there's quite a lot to choose from.
@Victoria Sponge your Tuscany has grown larger than typical... to stabilise it I would prune back to about 4.5 foot or so, this won't hurt it so you will still get blooms next year.. and when it's finished its main flush of bloom next July, I would prune back to 3 foot then allowing it to grow back again trying to maintain a height of around 4.5 or whatever is suitable for your location regarding wind resistance... I've not grown this rose, but this is what I think I would do...
@Butterfly66 .. 'Summer Wine' does set hips as it has been used as a seed parent.. it's very fertile... very thorny and does not repeat flower much..
...if you want to be sure of hips, I can recommend 'Morning Mist', which is very similar in appearance, grows very tall and would complement your The Lark Ascending rose... it sets wonderful hips so I understand... lots of them... and will repeat flower to an extent but maybe not so much if you can't attend to it... I suspect it has Summer Wine in its lineage, or Mutabilis...
..for a climber you might consider 'Wild Rover' another with Summer Wine influence.. this is almost thornless, will grow as a large arching shrub, very tall, or can be supported... scented of cloves and attacts bees... sets hips …. only drawback is that it will blackspot but it outgrows it.. no need to deadhead, it will rebloom anyway, it's that vigorous... best of luck with your rose choices...
Thanks @Marlorena will have a look at Wild Rover. We already have two Morning Mist and she is a lovely rose but would like something different for this spot. We didn’t get good hips last year but I suspect I deadheaded too long into the season.
might avoid Summer Wine if it’s very thorny.
@Logan4 exactly the problem too many to choose from so looking for personal recommendations to guide my choice 🙂
If you have a garden and a library, you have everything you need.”—Marcus Tullius Cicero East facing, top of a hill clay-loam, cultivated for centuries (7 years by me). Birmingham
Thank you @Marlorena, I was hoping I could do something of the sort to try and keep it more compact. Your help is much appreciated as always.
Coincidentally I was looking at getting Summer Wine also, Butterfly66, hope you find something you like🙂 I will take a look at Morning Mist, I don't recall seeing that rose before.
Thanks @Marlorena will have a look at Wild Rover. We already have two Morning Mist and she is a lovely rose but would like something different for this spot. We didn’t get good hips last year but I suspect I deadheaded too long into the season.
might avoid Summer Wine if it’s very thorny.
@Logan4 exactly the problem too many to choose from so looking for personal recommendations to guide my choice 🙂
Has anyone grown Rosa moschata Autumnalis or Allen Chandler?
@Marlorena would Morning Mist be happy grown as a climber and kept trained into the fence? The two we have, we grow as shrubs. Also would Wild Rover be ok trained back answers tied in against the fence or would he prefer to have some freedom?
@Victoria Sponge Morning Mist is gorgeous, she’s being a mass of flowers all summer with just a brief pause after the first flush.
If you have a garden and a library, you have everything you need.”—Marcus Tullius Cicero East facing, top of a hill clay-loam, cultivated for centuries (7 years by me). Birmingham
You all have such gorgeous roses. This is Queen of Sweden, (2nd picture) which is struggling a bit 😐 and I think Paul Sherville. Neither blooming as well as the stunning plants I've just looked at on here!
@Butterfly66 ...I have Wild Rover on an arch so yes it's amenable to training.. I would imagine Morning Mist to be so as well but I've not grown it... I suspect it's similar to The Lark Ascending which I've had, and these types of roses can be grown either way...
...Allen Chandler is a wonderful red rose, one of the best I think.. it grows on a wall at Sissinghurst, being a favourite of Vita Sackville-West in her time.. I saw it in full bloom last time I went there.. it continues blooming through the season and develops big orange red hips if not deadheaded... ...Rosa moschata 'Autumnalis'.. I think this is sold as 'Princesse de Nassau'.. it doesn't flower until August, and it may suffer some damage in worst of winters if you live in the north... I grew one similar but not the same, in East Anglia.. strong scent of cloves .. ... you might like 'The Generous Gardener'.. nice scent, continuous blooming and develops some big fat hips if not deadheaded... takes a while to get going though..
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I've not grown this rose, but this is what I think I would do...
...if you want to be sure of hips, I can recommend 'Morning Mist', which is very similar in appearance, grows very tall and would complement your The Lark Ascending rose... it sets wonderful hips so I understand... lots of them... and will repeat flower to an extent but maybe not so much if you can't attend to it... I suspect it has Summer Wine in its lineage, or Mutabilis...
..for a climber you might consider 'Wild Rover' another with Summer Wine influence.. this is almost thornless, will grow as a large arching shrub, very tall, or can be supported... scented of cloves and attacts bees... sets hips …. only drawback is that it will blackspot but it outgrows it.. no need to deadhead, it will rebloom anyway, it's that vigorous... best of luck with your rose choices...
might avoid Summer Wine if it’s very thorny.
@Logan4 exactly the problem too many to choose from so looking for personal recommendations to guide my choice 🙂
East facing, top of a hill clay-loam, cultivated for centuries (7 years by me). Birmingham
Coincidentally I was looking at getting Summer Wine also, Butterfly66, hope you find something you like🙂 I will take a look at Morning Mist, I don't recall seeing that rose before.
@Marlorena would Morning Mist be happy grown as a climber and kept trained into the fence? The two we have, we grow as shrubs. Also would Wild Rover be ok trained back answers tied in against the fence or would he prefer to have some freedom?
@Victoria Sponge Morning Mist is gorgeous, she’s being a mass of flowers all summer with just a brief pause after the first flush.
East facing, top of a hill clay-loam, cultivated for centuries (7 years by me). Birmingham
...I have Wild Rover on an arch so yes it's amenable to training.. I would imagine Morning Mist to be so as well but I've not grown it... I suspect it's similar to The Lark Ascending which I've had, and these types of roses can be grown either way...
...Allen Chandler is a wonderful red rose, one of the best I think.. it grows on a wall at Sissinghurst, being a favourite of Vita Sackville-West in her time.. I saw it in full bloom last time I went there.. it continues blooming through the season and develops big orange red hips if not deadheaded...
...Rosa moschata 'Autumnalis'.. I think this is sold as 'Princesse de Nassau'.. it doesn't flower until August, and it may suffer some damage in worst of winters if you live in the north... I grew one similar but not the same, in East Anglia.. strong scent of cloves ..
... you might like 'The Generous Gardener'.. nice scent, continuous blooming and develops some big fat hips if not deadheaded... takes a while to get going though..