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..the ROSE Season...2019...

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  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    What do you make of Louis XIV? For a warm sheltered spot.
    Also wondering what you make of planting a small bush rose in front of a climbing rose.


  • @emsgrdn What a beautiful garden you've got there! Are most of the flowers in that photo roses? Pardon my terribly foolish question but I am a beginner gardener.
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    edited May 2019
    Yes lovely isn't it... lots of gorgeous roses.. and I love the mountain scenery too!..

    @Fire   I hope you give that rose a try and tell us all about it... I haven't grown it before.. you might find it a weak grower that needs good cultivation.. 

    @emsgrdn   ..regarding your no i.d. rose... we await to see more photos later of open blooms, head on shots and foliage etc... almost impossible to say really, especially as you will grow some different roses to what we have here.. but it has a violet colour and to my eyes, OGR [Old Garden Rose] foliage... do you remember buying 'Reine des Violettes' ?  in America there are 2 roses going under this name, one is thornless - the one we have here - and one has small thorns which is an imposter.. I think I can see small thorns on your rose... ?.. 

    I've heard of Roses of Yesterday and Today.. been reading about it, started by Englishman Frances E. Lester who was from the Lake District, and has a famous rose named after him now..   lots of lovely roses they sell too..

    Which zone are you in.. zone 8?..  and which rootstocks are your roses on if any, Dr. Huey?... or are yours own root bands...?... I like to compare notes from different countries as to how their roses are grown...   'Wollerton' is nice in your picture too... I had that but it grew very tall and lanky.. and flopped.. I didn't have the support for it at the time... 

    Dreadful about that Camp fire business... there's a lady on another forum I sort of know, who lived in Paradise, a town that got wiped out by the fire... she had some 2000 roses in her garden.. 2000 !... she was so proud of them all, her house got burnt down and she lost everything..but I think it's being rebuilt and she has gone back there and found some of her roses are growing back as they were own roots..  they did some crowd funding for her I believe..

     
    East Anglia, England
  • Oh my goodness! What a tragedy but also great to hear about the roses growing back. Plants truly are a lot more resilient than we give them credit for sometimes.
  • matt_fendermatt_fender Posts: 169
    Our first of the season, "Lady of the Lake" climber from DA, which went in as a container-grown plant last last summer. I need to have a think about how to train this up the trellis, as at the moment it is more a bush at the bottom:




  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    ..oh how charming.. I've never seen that one before in close up... thanks Matt for posting..   please tell me about the scent, if any, and whether there are a lot of thorns, I should like to know this information..

    @Fire    I meant to answer you earlier regarding planting a rose in front of a climber... yes I do this too..  try and use a climbing rose that does not have too much foliage near the base... good for disguising the more lanky growers..
    East Anglia, England
  • MMflowerMMflower Posts: 79
    @matt_fender such a beautiful rose! I have been thinking of getting it and you’ve convinced me🙂 
    @Marlorena Thank you for all the wonderful advice you’ve been giving! 
    A couple of my single-petalled roses have bloomed.

    For Your Eyes Only


  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    edited May 2019
    Thanks, M. I was attracted by the Louis colour. Reds, as ever.

    I put in a load of climbing reds last year and they are about to flower for the first time.

    Crimson Glory has just opened one bud. It smells amazing and is very crimson edging towards vermilion. The DA plant looks very sickly, but was planted on the site of another rose. I've dug in a load of manure etc but I don't think the plant liked it, despite best efforts. I've pruned it back and mulched it. Fingers crossed. It might take a few years to settle in.

    Doctor Du Jamain is about to open and I am about to move them to a sunnier spot. Very lanky and weak as the  spot is too dark. The plants look very healthy though, which is a bit unexpected given his reputation.

    My Guinee is a way off from flowering but I have high hopes.

    The new Barkarole is going great guns (my only bush rose). No flowers yet.

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    My old Ena is glorious and smothered in flowers. She is never better than in this first flush. The perfume this year is glorious. Such a glorious dark red. I'm glad I started with her by the front door and six years or so in, she is hitting her stride. Very upright flowers at the moment.

    Niphetos (not red but cream) is benefiting by being properly pruned and trained in a fan for the first time this year. Each year I learn a little more and they all perform a little better. She is perhaps my favourite; impossibly elegant, divine smell, genteelly behaved, like a Victorian tea party all summer long.

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    Thanks for all the advice and consultation on the above. Your thoughts have been invaluable in learning about roses - from zero to careful training. Fingers crossed.
  • matt_fendermatt_fender Posts: 169
    @Marlorena the fragrance to my nose is rather strong, and quite "zesty". Very nice, and that as someone who often seems to struggle to smell roses (we have a short hedge of "Queen of Sweden" which my wife swears smells fantastic, and I get very little off it!). It is almost thornless on the main stems, with some thorns on the leaf stems. At the moment there is a lot of slender, bud-tipped growth but not much in the way of potential new leaders to train up the trellis. Should I do anything or just wait for it to do its thing? 


  • matt_fendermatt_fender Posts: 169
    @MMFlower this is only its first full season, but we got a good flush of flowers after planting late last summer and it seems very healthy and vigorous so far, with loads of buds now. Although I hadn't seen one in the flesh before, the idea of a vigorous (12 ft, according to DA) repeat flowering climber was what drew us to it - I think it is going to look amazing once it has covered the trellis.
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