@Marlorena......advice needed please. I want to grow a hedge of Rose's. Good for pollinators, strong scent, long flowering season. 3 - 5 foot high. Preferably white flowers. Does such a suitable rose exist? I was looking at rosa rogusa but I'm afraid it would be unmanagable, looking forward to your suggestions.
@Mary370 …. yes a rose does exist like that... but it's a pity you can't consider a rugosa.. either 'Alba' or the strong scented 'Blanc Double de Coubert' make great hedges, and probably cheaper to buy locally...
...otherwise.. you would need to look at any of these....
'Desdemona' … I have a short hedge of this, you can buy as a 'hedging bundle' from David Austin... it's long flowering, very healthy, and trouble free... medium scent, it doesn't waft … currently my plants are having 2nd flush and full of hoverflies... ...another is the thornless rose Kew Gardens... but this lacks scent, but otherwise meets requirements...
...'Susan Williams-Ellis'.. strongly scented, rather muddled blooms but good for insects, continuous flowering, makes a great hedge, but rather thorny...
'Gruss an Aachen'... a German bred rose but makes a great low hedge, continuous bloom form, scented, and quite healthy too... it's the rose David Austin wanted to emulate in his own roses..
'Pearl Drift'... lovely pink buds produce pure white flowers... not much scent, but the dark green foliage is outstanding on a shapely bush.. very suitable for wildlife and hedging...
...if you don't mind the thorns... I would go with 'Susan Williams-Ellis'... it's also reputed to be disease free... which is always a bonus...
@Marlorena......thank you for your recommendations......can you give your advice on the following, from Peter Beales site Churchill Rose - modern shrub rose Old Blush - China Souvenir de St. Anne's - bourbon Erfurt - modern shrub Jacqueline de Pre - modern shrub Moonlight - hybrid musk
@robbie2red .. I'm delighted you've caught the 'rose bug'... I do try to spread it around... ..I like your theme of colours... and Olivia is supposed to be a great rose,.. please don't expect too much from it in the first year... … so many roses for you to explore when you get going... but I do feel a little duty bound to advise on something very boring and preachy, but it does need to be mentioned from time to time. - just in case..
..it's when you start propagating roses from cuttings on roses that have a PBR.. Plant Breeder's Rights [it will be on the back of the label]... now us home gardeners don't have to worry about this too much, no one is going to come after you, and you are perfectly entitled to propagate for your own personal use - it's exempt from the legislation... but you would be taking a risk, as in breaking the law, if you ever try to sell any of them on, not even at a car boot sale, or to a charity, church fair.. anything really that involves profit..
...so by all means take cuttings from your new rose,... but if you get quite a few rose plants out of it...too many for yourself, be careful what you then do with them...
...best of luck.. enjoy your roses... most do better budded onto rootstock, so results can vary as on their own roots they are more sensitive to soil ph... but it's fun to try...
Looked at Susan Williams Ellis.......it is indeed a beautiful rose. Ohhh decisions.......was originally looking at white but there are some lovely colours out there.....no rush as there is still time to make final decision.
@Mary370 ...of those you listed, I've grown Erfurt and Moonlight... I liked Erfurt a lot, lovely foliage colours and healthy.. constant bloom, single flowers, quite thorny but a shapely bush... would do well as a hedge, but not much scent..
I was never in love with Moonlight... I grew it along a fence, and it just didn't excite me terribly..
I know Old Blush makes a nice hedge, I've seen one... Souvenir de St Anne's I know of and it's a nice idea that one... I've not seen it as a hedge.... The other 2 roses I don't know...
After a bit of cooler weather, the new flushes on my red roses have surprised me by being, well, almost red! But they are not conforming to type. So, which is which?
The choices are - Darcy Bussell, Munstead Wood, LD Braithwaite.
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...otherwise.. you would need to look at any of these....
'Desdemona' … I have a short hedge of this, you can buy as a 'hedging bundle' from David Austin... it's long flowering, very healthy, and trouble free... medium scent, it doesn't waft … currently my plants are having 2nd flush and full of hoverflies...
...another is the thornless rose Kew Gardens... but this lacks scent, but otherwise meets requirements...
...'Susan Williams-Ellis'.. strongly scented, rather muddled blooms but good for insects, continuous flowering, makes a great hedge, but rather thorny...
'Gruss an Aachen'... a German bred rose but makes a great low hedge, continuous bloom form, scented, and quite healthy too... it's the rose David Austin wanted to emulate in his own roses..
'Pearl Drift'... lovely pink buds produce pure white flowers... not much scent, but the dark green foliage is outstanding on a shapely bush.. very suitable for wildlife and hedging...
...if you don't mind the thorns... I would go with 'Susan Williams-Ellis'... it's also reputed to be disease free... which is always a bonus...
Churchill Rose - modern shrub rose
Old Blush - China
Souvenir de St. Anne's - bourbon
Erfurt - modern shrub
Jacqueline de Pre - modern shrub
Moonlight - hybrid musk
..I like your theme of colours... and Olivia is supposed to be a great rose,.. please don't expect too much from it in the first year...
… so many roses for you to explore when you get going... but I do feel a little duty bound to advise on something very boring and preachy, but it does need to be mentioned from time to time. - just in case..
..it's when you start propagating roses from cuttings on roses that have a PBR.. Plant Breeder's Rights [it will be on the back of the label]... now us home gardeners don't have to worry about this too much, no one is going to come after you, and you are perfectly entitled to propagate for your own personal use - it's exempt from the legislation... but you would be taking a risk, as in breaking the law, if you ever try to sell any of them on, not even at a car boot sale, or to a charity, church fair.. anything really that involves profit..
...so by all means take cuttings from your new rose,... but if you get quite a few rose plants out of it...too many for yourself, be careful what you then do with them...
...best of luck.. enjoy your roses... most do better budded onto rootstock, so results can vary as on their own roots they are more sensitive to soil ph... but it's fun to try...
...of those you listed, I've grown Erfurt and Moonlight... I liked Erfurt a lot, lovely foliage colours and healthy.. constant bloom, single flowers, quite thorny but a shapely bush... would do well as a hedge, but not much scent..
I was never in love with Moonlight... I grew it along a fence, and it just didn't excite me terribly..
I know Old Blush makes a nice hedge, I've seen one...
Souvenir de St Anne's I know of and it's a nice idea that one... I've not seen it as a hedge....
The other 2 roses I don't know...
After a bit of cooler weather, the new flushes on my red roses have surprised me by being, well, almost red! But they are not conforming to type. So, which is which?
The choices are - Darcy Bussell, Munstead Wood, LD Braithwaite.