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..the ROSE Season...2019...

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  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    Bravo Daniel !... very well done, that's brilliant.. I really didn't need to explain this to you I think...  and you got it right back to the base by the looks of things.. at least with this you now know what a sucker looks like.. pale green foliage, quite different to the rest of the rose... the stem will also be thornless, should you ever see it again..

    The other ones are fine, they're not suckers... if you see pink/plum red growth, that's ok... they're not suckers..   the last one coming out like a white with pink tip, I'm 100 percent that's not a sucker...there is no pink in a sucker..

    Next time you plant a rose, try and bury that knobbly bit an inch or two below the soil..


    East Anglia, England
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    Nollie, that would be a good idea actually, I  hadn't thought of that, to take it back and exchange, but it's sorted now, so all steam ahead I think... but yes, I'm sure they would have exchanged that..
    East Anglia, England
  • Thank you I’m glad I’ve done a good job haha and I will make sure to focus on planting roses a bit deeper although I’d say half my roses have the graft point showing but the other half don’t as it just depended on what I knew at the time of planting!!
  • Busy-LizzieBusy-Lizzie Posts: 24,043






    I love roses and I've been reading this thread with interest. I mentioned in another thread by Daniel that I have over 50 roses and my daughter has 94! My soil is alkali clay on limestone rock, so not the best. Daughter has lovely fertile but quite heavy soil, her roses do much better than mine. But hers have only been planted in the last 2 or 3 years and some of mine were planted in the early 90s.

    I love the different leaves in spring. The first 3 flowers are all shades of orange, David Austin but the leaves and habit are different.

    1 is Summer Song, 2 is Lady of Shallot, 3 is Lady Emma Hamilton, 4 is The Pilgrim and 5 is Rosa Complicata.


    Dordogne and Norfolk. Clay in Dordogne, sandy in Norfolk.
  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    I love the new foliage colours as well @Busy-Lizzie and how wonderfully healthy they all look. I actually like the young foliage of Lady Emma more than the colour of the rose but the reverse with Lady of Shallot, which I think has beautiful blooms.

    How do you find Summer Song to grow? I have often looked at that one, but heard it can be rather ‘difficult’ ? 
    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    Fabulous foliage photos Busy Lizzie... thanks for contributing... Summer Song has that large luxuriant leafage doesn't it.... and nice to see Complicata again, not everyone would appreciate a rose like that...
    East Anglia, England
  • debs64debs64 Posts: 5,184
    Thanks for the tip about tea Marlorena, very hard water here, would you say rainwater is best for roses generally? My daughter just bought a big water butt so not a problem for her. ( she doesn’t drink tea) 
  • purplerallimpurplerallim Posts: 5,287
    Thanks for the tip about tea @Marlorena. It wasn't until you spoke about it that it dawned on me that the yellow leaves appear later in the season when hot weather makes me water them from the hose. Now in dry periods I'll use a can of tea laced water.
     I am presently watching the sparrows clear my rose bushes of bugs, never need to use anything they do a good job.🙂
  • Busy-LizzieBusy-Lizzie Posts: 24,043
    Nollie said:
    I love the new foliage colours as well @Busy-Lizzie and how wonderfully healthy they all look. I actually like the young foliage of Lady Emma more than the colour of the rose but the reverse with Lady of Shallot, which I think has beautiful blooms.

    How do you find Summer Song to grow? I have often looked at that one, but heard it can be rather ‘difficult’ ? 


    Mine is in a pot so easier, perhaps, to keep an eye on it. I have no more room in the fenced bit of the garden and the deer eat the roses in the unfenced bit.

    But, although the flowers are gorgeous, I'm not so fond of the way it grows. It gets very tall and upright and has die back more than the other two orangey roses, also the flowers are a bit heavy for the stems.

    I use rose fertiliser that has iron in it because my soil is alkali which makes it harder for roses to absorb iron which can make the leaves go yellow if they can't get it from the soil. You can feed them with sequestrene, don't know if the English word is the same, which helps. The other thing to remember is that plants need the soil to be damp to absorb fertiliser so if there is a drought or the rose is unwatered in a pot fertiliser won't make any difference. It can get very dry here in SW France.

    Dordogne and Norfolk. Clay in Dordogne, sandy in Norfolk.
  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    Thanks M. I had misunderstood the point of burying the graft union.
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