Reading my Evening Paper which arrived with my breakfast an article made me spit blood at the P.C.idiots trying to kill anything that looks fun or would amuse most people with a balanced look on life. A local school has cancelled the punch and Judy show unless Punch does not hit any one, the Policeman becomes Police Officers inferring one of each and the Minstrel is not in the show. The excuse is it may make some children think domestic violence is normal? We as children saw many Punch and Judy Shows and I never once struck Joan, I would not have dared big as I was. We saw sea side Minstrel shows and on the local Hippodrome in live shows, the Black and White Minstrels on TV, yet worked with people from many parts of the world in the Army and Civvi Street, you knew that a show was a show not meant to represent real life. If those shows are so life changing all Murder, Scandy plays, even considering some of the blatant fouls I saw World Football should be banned. Are we so incapable of distinguishing fact from fiction that we have to have these do gooders who only see a very narrow facet of life telling us what we can or cannot watch. We will all have to sew our mouths up soon as smiling will be seen as a sexual advance to some? Frank.
At one time, public hangings, cock fighting, animal circus acts ,Love Thy Neighbour, etc were considered to be socially acceptable entertainment. Times change.
B3 Yes I agree also at one time children left school and went to work as early as twelve, I was lucky making sixteen the exception not the rule, University or even College were not possible for us. Those children worked in conditions that would never be allowed today although they brought up the next two generations to expect better, and most I know believe in family that mingles talks enjoys life knows what is fiction and what is fact. The youngest Grandchildren have just done shows at school that could be classed as not PC by some, they knew it was a show, not real, will not be hurt by it and I must say played the parts with gusto. If we allow a very narrow band of people to take all fun and joy out of life what is the point of living? I am not kidding about sewing the lips up as a woman once asked me what I was smiling at, Nastily, I had not even seen her up to that moment as i was looking at my Granddaughter. Frank.
I really don't think that a Black & White Minstrel show is harmless ... it's deeply offensive to members of my family who's recent ancestors were taken by force from their homelands and kept in slavery for generations in wicked inhumane conditions.
If you like a song and dance act by all means sing and dance ... there is no need to black up and attempt to romanticise and make acceptable the effects of man's inhumanity to man.
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Isn't it a shame that it has to be said, in this day and age ... there are still people who do not understand how hurtful and damaging to our society stuff like that is. It's only one step removed from saying that the KKK are a 'harmless tradition'.
And people wonder why so many young black lads feel alienated from the rest of us ...
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Dove, at the time we all watched that Saturday night show it was looked at for what it was a song and dance show we never even thought of the implications or hidden meanings. We all know slavery is wrong yet it still goes on though hidden under the blanket. A documentary on TV last week made the fact that slavery was a way of life in the African nations long before any white people arrived, that is apart from the Coastal people from Countries on the Atlantic coast snatched and sold by Barbary pirates. Tribal Chiefs were wealthy because of slavery of their own people which the Coloured commentator told us was ten times more that those shipped to the Americas. It always was wrong though from pre-historic times up to the present it happened, still does. let us do the job properly, ban Shakespeare, Dickens, all books with Ghosts ghouls Murder and Mayhem, Dragons, Harry potter and i would add phones to the list. They can contain bullying and allow wicked people to attack children. Where do we start and where do we end, wrap the whole human race in tissue paper put them on shelves and allow no outside influence. I had a Squad of African Soldiers as we transported tanks around the Desert, I taught then to drive and service the vehicles because that would get them good jobs at home, having seen the Jazz singer did not influence my thoughts of people I ate drank and worked with who were exactly the same as me in their hopes for the future. Frank.
Sadly Frank not everyone has your intellect, perception or balanced attitude to life. You only have to listen to phone in programmes to discover that people regurgitate cliches as opinions without any kind of understanding about the subject or veracity of the information.
I rarely watch TV these days but was waiting for the weather forecast and came across a demonstration (London I think), absolutely gobsmacked by some of the 'public' opinions.
"The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it." Sir Terry Pratchett
I know Frank, I watched it when I was a child ... it doesn't make it right ... we are now much more aware of what went on ... hopefully we are more humane in our understanding of how our ancestors treated my son in law's ancestors. The fact that it went on in other countries is the racist's stock way of attempting to excuse the inexcusable and it certainly doesn't make it acceptable to dress it up and make it and its after effects look amusing.
Racism is still very close to the surface in this country ... I have witnessed it when out with my son in law and his family ... I have witnessed people I love being called unacceptable names and people have changed their tables in a restaurant mid-course rather than sit at the next table to us.
... I ate drank and worked with who were exactly the same as me in their hopes for the future. Frank.
Of course they were ... why would they not be ... but their chances in almost every case would have been so much less than yours and mine ... simply due to their race and the way people's prejudices impacted on them.
While people in this country are still impacted negatively by their family histories as slaves then we must not ignore the racist implications of black and white minstrel shows.
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
Herbaceous, More people than you would think but they do not write about it, I cringed when I saw the News with that silly balloon thing and Labour leaders prominent among them. Remembering the Stalins and other leaders who turned they Countries in money banks for themselves President Trumps twittering are inconsequential. We all get the odd bad leaders there have been a few in this Country in my time. I would note the ones who sent us Military off to war with a gay wave thinking that should take the hoy peloy's minds off my misdemeanours, what does it matter if some come back in a box, or as in my time left where they fell. @ by the Sikhs who unloaded my van in Birmingham before sitting me down to tea and biscuits and chatting. They were normal people but they were in a position to do it their way, was i upset about it, no. Frank PS I feel I have lived too long and do not see any point staying on this board time I signed off and left.
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A local school has cancelled the punch and Judy show unless Punch does not hit any one, the Policeman becomes Police Officers inferring one of each and the Minstrel is not in the show.
The excuse is it may make some children think domestic violence is normal?
We as children saw many Punch and Judy Shows and I never once struck Joan, I would not have dared big as I was. We saw sea side Minstrel shows and on the local Hippodrome in live shows, the Black and White Minstrels on TV, yet worked with people from many parts of the world in the Army and Civvi Street, you knew that a show was a show not meant to represent real life.
If those shows are so life changing all Murder, Scandy plays, even considering some of the blatant fouls I saw World Football should be banned.
Are we so incapable of distinguishing fact from fiction that we have to have these do gooders who only see a very narrow facet of life telling us what we can or cannot watch.
We will all have to sew our mouths up soon as smiling will be seen as a sexual advance to some?
Frank.
Those children worked in conditions that would never be allowed today although they brought up the next two generations to expect better, and most I know believe in family that mingles talks enjoys life knows what is fiction and what is fact.
The youngest Grandchildren have just done shows at school that could be classed as not PC by some, they knew it was a show, not real, will not be hurt by it and I must say played the parts with gusto.
If we allow a very narrow band of people to take all fun and joy out of life what is the point of living? I am not kidding about sewing the lips up as a woman once asked me what I was smiling at, Nastily, I had not even seen her up to that moment as i was looking at my Granddaughter.
Frank.
If you like a song and dance act by all means sing and dance ... there is no need to black up and attempt to romanticise and make acceptable the effects of man's inhumanity to man.
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
And people wonder why so many young black lads feel alienated from the rest of us ...
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
We all know slavery is wrong yet it still goes on though hidden under the blanket. A documentary on TV last week made the fact that slavery was a way of life in the African nations long before any white people arrived, that is apart from the Coastal people from Countries on the Atlantic coast snatched and sold by Barbary pirates. Tribal Chiefs were wealthy because of slavery of their own people which the Coloured commentator told us was ten times more that those shipped to the Americas.
It always was wrong though from pre-historic times up to the present it happened, still does.
let us do the job properly, ban Shakespeare, Dickens, all books with Ghosts ghouls Murder and Mayhem, Dragons, Harry potter and i would add phones to the list. They can contain bullying and allow wicked people to attack children.
Where do we start and where do we end, wrap the whole human race in tissue paper put them on shelves and allow no outside influence.
I had a Squad of African Soldiers as we transported tanks around the Desert, I taught then to drive and service the vehicles because that would get them good jobs at home, having seen the Jazz singer did not influence my thoughts of people I ate drank and worked with who were exactly the same as me in their hopes for the future.
Frank.
I rarely watch TV these days but was waiting for the weather forecast and came across a demonstration (London I think), absolutely gobsmacked by some of the 'public' opinions.
Racism is still very close to the surface in this country ... I have witnessed it when out with my son in law and his family ... I have witnessed people I love being called unacceptable names and people have changed their tables in a restaurant mid-course rather than sit at the next table to us.
Of course they were ... why would they not be ... but their chances in almost every case would have been so much less than yours and mine ... simply due to their race and the way people's prejudices impacted on them.
While people in this country are still impacted negatively by their family histories as slaves then we must not ignore the racist implications of black and white minstrel shows.
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
We all get the odd bad leaders there have been a few in this Country in my time. I would note the ones who sent us Military off to war with a gay wave thinking that should take the hoy peloy's minds off my misdemeanours, what does it matter if some come back in a box, or as in my time left where they fell.
@ by the Sikhs who unloaded my van in Birmingham before sitting me down to tea and biscuits and chatting. They were normal people but they were in a position to do it their way, was i upset about it, no.
Frank
PS I feel I have lived too long and do not see any point staying on this board time I signed off and left.