Isn't that the trouble with politicians, though. The sort of people who want to run the country are generally the last people on earth you want in charge. Just think of a world run by Boris and Trump!
The stuff of nightmares Posy. Actually, I've just realised that Boris isn't a real person, he's a life-size wooden dummy and what we hear is the words of whoever is working him at any given moment. Maybe Trump was made by the same model maker?
I read all this thread but now can't remember who posted the complaint that the EU couldn't be any good economically, because Mediterranean EU members like Greece hadn't turned their economies around. I believe their principal exports are olive products, so it might take a few years before they develop other ways of making their own money, even with EU help - perhaps a bit unrealistic to expect an EU magic wand? Independent economic estimates suggest that Britain's income is 5% higher than it would be without our membership of the EU.
I think it's also totally unrealistic to expect, if we leave the EU, that we will have any significant power in the world. Historically we've always "punched above our weight", but we have no colonial strength and no monopoly in any area of trade any more. Obama was just telling things how they are, when he said we'd be way down on the list of countries the US would be doing trade deals with.
It's a no-brainer. IN.
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Posy, can I add Putin to your list of Trump and Bojo as folk who want rule us. Funnily enough, all three want us to leave the EU. That alone is good enough reason to stay.
It is companies and people that do trades, not governments. When he talks about the US doing trade deals he merely means removing barriers to trade that politicians created in the first place (and patting themselves on the back).
Governments facilitate trade - or block it - by making trade deals with other countries or trading blocks such as the EU, USA, or China or the African Economic Community. Governments also make rules on what can be sold to whom eg nuclear materials.
Companies then trade within that framework.
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Was Boris ever normal? Good for a laugh but not normal and not too sensible either. Definitely a "me" politician.
Isn't that the trouble with politicians, though. The sort of people who want to run the country are generally the last people on earth you want in charge. Just think of a world run by Boris and Trump!
The stuff of nightmares Posy. Actually, I've just realised that Boris isn't a real person, he's a life-size wooden dummy and what we hear is the words of whoever is working him at any given moment. Maybe Trump was made by the same model maker?
Except in Trumps case he used too much wood stain.
I read all this thread but now can't remember who posted the complaint that the EU couldn't be any good economically, because Mediterranean EU members like Greece hadn't turned their economies around. I believe their principal exports are olive products, so it might take a few years before they develop other ways of making their own money, even with EU help - perhaps a bit unrealistic to expect an EU magic wand? Independent economic estimates suggest that Britain's income is 5% higher than it would be without our membership of the EU.
I think it's also totally unrealistic to expect, if we leave the EU, that we will have any significant power in the world. Historically we've always "punched above our weight", but we have no colonial strength and no monopoly in any area of trade any more. Obama was just telling things how they are, when he said we'd be way down on the list of countries the US would be doing trade deals with.
It's a no-brainer. IN.
Posy, can I add Putin to your list of Trump and Bojo as folk who want rule us. Funnily enough, all three want us to leave the EU. That alone is good enough reason to stay.
It is companies and people that do trades, not governments. When he talks about the US doing trade deals he merely means removing barriers to trade that politicians created in the first place (and patting themselves on the back).
Governments facilitate trade - or block it - by making trade deals with other countries or trading blocks such as the EU, USA, or China or the African Economic Community. Governments also make rules on what can be sold to whom eg nuclear materials.
Companies then trade within that framework.