Shame about the lack of weather resistance on Faustinia, Tack, it’s a lovely rose.
I’ve had late blooms on PB before, but it seems to be sulking after the hot summer. Thinking about it, plenty of new growth on Mme. Isaac Pereire and Mme. de Sévigné but no sign of rebloom. WS2000 and Falstaff are still busy growing new foliage and shoots but may not have time to bloom again either.
I can’t say I have high hopes for anything in particular, it’s always a game of wait and see how they cope. I am really excited to trial the coming Guillot roses, but have a sneaking suspicion many will struggle in heat.
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
Quick question (there is much of this discussion I'd like to come back to later!)- when planting a bareroot with several spindly bits coming off the canes, do you get rid of them or leave them fatten up?
Unfortunately the roses have been a bit battered by Storm Babet but we've had it nowhere near as bad as those of you further north. I hope no one has been too badly affected.
I managed a couple of pictures of the less battered blooms today...
Red Abundance
Claire Marshall
I like the silly leafy sepals on "Amande Paternotte". It is one of the many roses with buds on. I don't know which will ball in the autumnal weather but I will be interested to see if any manage to open.
Don't grow up - grow sideways.
Gardening in the West Midlands on a mix of neutral loamy sand & Victorian building rubble.
@PeterAberdeen stay safe.. garden works can wait till the storm passes.. I am sure the roses will be fine..
@WAMS I always let the spindly bits hang on till spring.. either they die of cold or they will be snipped off later.. whether they fatten up later is a mystery to me.. but most of them stay the same.. only reason I let them be until spring is to avoid further die back from the cut/exposed bit of stems..
Thanks, @cooldoc, that makes sense and I'll leave them be for now.
Just received a very sturdy Abraham Darby and Petit Prince from TW. The Mutabilis seems rather spindly and weak by comparison; hopefully it's just the rose?🤔 Mind you, Evelyn was alarmingly spindly on arrival last year and is magnificent now.
Bliss / Marchenzauber. Lost almost all of its second flush to a gardening accident but the blooms that remain are beautiful. Sarah Darcey Bussell Forever Royal Forever Royal with a clematis, I forget which... saw the canine photo bomb and had to upload it.😁
I love those colours too, Tack, and increasingly apricot. Also wondering about the grey rose, Ashwednesday, an older Kordes rose stocked by Peter Beales. Has anyone seen it in real life?
Step 5; sprinkle rose food at the planting hole🤔 wonder if that was always the advice from DA.. normally they tell us to sprinkle Mycorrhyzial fungi... a typo perhaps??
Ash wednesday pics look nice.. definitely not grey to my eyes.. but a mauvish pink may be.. Apparently just one good flush as per HMF..
@LateralBreaks how was the re-bloom and scent on Amande Paternotte?
Supplemental: The winds have toppled the obelisks that were holding Lady of Shalott and The Poet's Wife.
Can I prune them down now (I know roses are tough and resilient) and bed the obelisks in deeper or should I wait till spring before pruning? I'd rather not snap anything whilst carrying out remedial works in case I do un-necessary damage.
Thanks, in advance, for your thoughts.
Hard to say what to do for the best without seeing the damage Peter. Is there no way you can just push the obelisks back in for now, maybe reinforce with a stake or three? Any snapped canes need pruning off, the soil re-firmed around the roots if they’ve been wrenched out the ground a bit, otherwise I’d try not to prune more than a third off at this time of year.
Not sure if that’s much use, I’m really just bumping your post to see if anyone has better advice for you!
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
I've used contractors fencing pins from Screwfix in the past for staking things quickly after storms - they are about 3-ft high of substantial metal, spiked at the base and a handy metal 'loop' at the top to tie ropes/fences/obelisks/rose arches to. The metal makes it far easier to wallop them into the ground with a mallet in our heavy clay soil. They're not cheap at approx £25-30 for ten (from memory) but are indestructable and handy to keep for emergencies!
@cooldoc My Amande Paternotte is young. She spent last summer in a pot and this summer in the ground. So it is a bit early to give a definitive view but from what I've seen so far...
Scent is a good strong old rose scent. The fragrance doesn't waft but it might do when the plant becomes more established.
Amande P. had a first flush in June which was mainly with the blooms in clusters. The second flush in August was nearly as prolific as the first but the flowers were more singular on the stems. Now in October I've got a scattering of a few more buds.
I read some old Victorian articles on the Portlands / Damask Perpetuals that recommended pruning out some of the buds from the first flush as they formed. This was supposed to increase the number of blooms in the second flush. It seems to have worked okay for me.
Hope that helps.
One of Amande Patternotte's blooms from June.
Don't grow up - grow sideways.
Gardening in the West Midlands on a mix of neutral loamy sand & Victorian building rubble.
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I’ve had late blooms on PB before, but it seems to be sulking after the hot summer. Thinking about it, plenty of new growth on Mme. Isaac Pereire and Mme. de Sévigné but no sign of rebloom. WS2000 and Falstaff are still busy growing new foliage and shoots but may not have time to bloom again either.
I can’t say I have high hopes for anything in particular, it’s always a game of wait and see how they cope. I am really excited to trial the coming Guillot roses, but have a sneaking suspicion many will struggle in heat.
@WAMS I always let the spindly bits hang on till spring.. either they die of cold or they will be snipped off later.. whether they fatten up later is a mystery to me.. but most of them stay the same.. only reason I let them be until spring is to avoid further die back from the cut/exposed bit of stems..
I never know
Just received a very sturdy Abraham Darby and Petit Prince from TW. The Mutabilis seems rather spindly and weak by comparison; hopefully it's just the rose?🤔 Mind you, Evelyn was alarmingly spindly on arrival last year and is magnificent now.
Bliss / Marchenzauber. Lost almost all of its second flush to a gardening accident but the blooms that remain are beautiful.
Sarah
Darcey Bussell
Forever Royal
Forever Royal with a clematis, I forget which... saw the canine photo bomb and had to upload it.😁
I love those colours too, Tack, and increasingly apricot. Also wondering about the grey rose, Ashwednesday, an older Kordes rose stocked by Peter Beales. Has anyone seen it in real life?
Ash wednesday pics look nice.. definitely not grey to my eyes.. but a mauvish pink may be..
Apparently just one good flush as per HMF..
@LateralBreaks how was the re-bloom and scent on Amande Paternotte?
Not sure if that’s much use, I’m really just bumping your post to see if anyone has better advice for you!
They're not cheap at approx £25-30 for ten (from memory) but are indestructable and handy to keep for emergencies!