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  • ciaranmcgreneraciaranmcgrenera Posts: 313
    edited 8 February
    My two sad MHs. Any and all advice towards setting them on the road to recovery is most welcome.

  • bédébédé Posts: 3,095
    It is early February.  If you call those roses "sad", what do your happy ones look like?
     location: Surrey Hills, England, ex-woodland acidic sand.
    "Have nothing in your garden that you don't know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful."
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    edited 8 February
    ^nothing much wrong with those really.. the top one, the greyish cane on the right needs to be taken out at the base as it's dead, leaving 3 good canes left.

    The bottom one, no problem at all.. just plant them when weather permits..

    The pinkish new shoots tends to indicate they've been kept in too warm a place, perhaps under cover, but they will soon return to a normal colour once outside..

    I should add that, since they're containerised, you don't have to plant them now but anytime you want.  I think I would keep them in the pots until about April.  Sprinkle rose fertilizer around the top and water in, in early March, then you will have good strong growth by April.   Up to you of course.
    East Anglia, England
  • OK, maybe I’m just a victim of my prejudice.

    in the lower one do you think the third decent cane over from the left looks dodgy?  It’s very black. 

    Also should I trim out those scraggly little shoots or let them go?


  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    edited 8 February
    @ciaranmcgrenera
    No, not at all, if it's the one I'm looking at I don't see it as very black, where is it ''very black''?.. edit. oh I think you mean at the base, that's nothing..   you're worrying far too much, all perfectly ok, and leave those little shoots on..
    If you got a refund on those you're very lucky.. 
    East Anglia, England
  • ciaranmcgreneraciaranmcgrenera Posts: 313
    edited 8 February
    @Marlorena
    Yeah that’s what I meant. It looked worse when dry. OK, maybe I’m being too tough on them. I had a bad experience a while back, got a voucher for there, and when I went I struggled badly to find things to spend it on. There were a lot of plants in poor condition, and when did find something and got to the checkout everything I had was incorrectly priced versus the price it was scanning at. Very frustrating.

    edit: interesting that you advise keeping them in the pots- why is that better than being in the ground?
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    edited 8 February
    @ciaranmcgrenera
    ..that's ok, no problem.. 

     I wasn't advising to keep them in a pot, but containerised roses can be planted anytime, there's no rush.. but can you have a look at the bottom of the pots to make sure little white roots are showing through the drainage holes?, as that means they are well rooted in and should come out with a clean root ball.  At this time of year they might have been recently potted up from bare roots, therefore will be loose in the compost, but even so you could still plant them, but the compost will fall away a bit.  

    I suspect they are fully containerised from last year and should be well rooted in, they look it to me but I'm only seeing the surface and I'd like to make sure by checking the base.

    Looking at them again I am wondering if they've been recently potted up as the surface is remarkably fresh and clean, i.e. weed free.   
    East Anglia, England
  • Busy-LizzieBusy-Lizzie Posts: 24,043
    Good heavens @Marlorena! Your roses are well in advance of mine and I am further south than you, both in Norfolk. Didn't you have any heavy frosts this winter? We did.

    Are you sure this will be your last year starting the rose threads? You will be greatly missed.
    Dordogne and Norfolk. Clay in Dordogne, sandy in Norfolk.
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    Thank you..  just a few frosts up this way so far, not seen a snowflake.
    East Anglia, England
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