@Marlorena this is what Harkness replied when I asked them about the registration name for 'Platinum Jubilee'
"I've received the following advice from the nursery:
In the world of plants you can choose to do either of the two options below:
1 register a plant for plant breeder's rights (registered Name)
2. Trademark the name ™
Harkness more often choose to trademark the name over registering it for plant breeder's right due to the cost of plant breeder's right and the length of time it takes.
So in this instance it's a Trademarked name and there isn't a Registered name"
@cooldoc Yes, it's just that the name in this instance, 'The Royal Philharmonic Orchestra rose' doesn't appear to be Trademarked either, which adds to the curiosity.
On naming and codes, Styles "introduced" 43 new varieties this year. But some of them are just ones they have renamed e.g. Definitely Different is now sold as Jan's Delight, and they are cagey about identifying the breeders of many of the others. Instead they have codes like STY04-04 on their website. When asked about this, they said:
Even when directly asked, they won't identify who bred some of the new ones. Someone asked them if Nicola was just Soeur Emmanuelle renamed and she didn't get a direct answer.
It puts me off ordering from them tbh as I don't want to inadvertently buy something I already own!
Something I've long been suspicious about, I think lots of them do this, renaming roses that are already out there, or have been so.. the classic example I always give is 'The Anniversary Rose' which was originally sold as 'Sweet Parfum de Provence'.. this obviously didn't sell well, so it disappeared for a bit, only to resurface under the new name.. it's now sold under both names depending where you obtain it.
Some of those cutesy first name roses which are proliferating now, when I look at them, I keep thinking I've seen that rose somewhere else.
It puts me off ordering from them tbh as I don't want to inadvertently buy something I already own!
Exactly why I asked them for a registered name. Almost everyone does it.. Trewor white goes one step further... For eg, the 'Pheno geno' or Poulsen ones have multiple names in their website.. which is annoying and confusing..
..rummaging through my photos, of which I have thousands, I came across this one. Just a reminder of what 'Vanessa Bell' can look like, grown in a pot.. well fed and watered..
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Yes, it's just that the name in this instance, 'The Royal Philharmonic Orchestra rose' doesn't appear to be Trademarked either, which adds to the curiosity.
Even when directly asked, they won't identify who bred some of the new ones. Someone asked them if Nicola was just Soeur Emmanuelle renamed and she didn't get a direct answer.
It puts me off ordering from them tbh as I don't want to inadvertently buy something I already own!
Some of those cutesy first name roses which are proliferating now, when I look at them, I keep thinking I've seen that rose somewhere else.
I always wonder where those companies who provide roses for naming after a loved one have nicked them from..
Wow, such an intense colour on Chippendale, Tack.
Lady Em is also getting her glow back:
Avalanche Abricot yet again..
Almost everyone does it.. Trewor white goes one step further... For eg, the 'Pheno geno' or Poulsen ones have multiple names in their website.. which is annoying and confusing..
'Mme. Falcot'..
'Lambada'..
..'the RPO rose'..
Nerines are flowering early for me.. usually mid Oct..