So am I @WAMS, but being retired I have more than a lunch break 🙂 What a lovely collection @LateralBreaks, old roses, some of which I grew years ago when we lived in Kent, and roses that I've never heard of.
Dordogne and Norfolk. Clay in Dordogne, sandy in Norfolk.
What an amazing collection of roses we collectively own. I’ll be HMF-ing a few of those too @LateralBreaks.
Loubert roots probably start out the same as TW et al, but they do root prune pretty heavily for dispatch, as do a few other French nurseries. I’ve never found it slows growth down compared to others, a sturdy graft and good strong canes are more important I think. I tend to pot mine up first anyway, so saves me the job of root trimming to fit!
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
I do like roses with a bit of history to them. They're sometimes a bit more disease prone and a bit less floriferous than modern roses but I don't think the difference is as much as modern rose breeders make out. This year my modern roses were as badly affected by black spot as the older ones, and my best performer was Stanwell Perpetual which was bred around 1822.
Don't grow up - grow sideways.
Gardening in the West Midlands on a mix of neutral loamy sand & Victorian building rubble.
How much sunshine does your Stanwell Perpetual enjoy, @LateralBreaks?
My Jubilee Celebration which I will be moving this weekend. Those who have this rose, did it need so much support after a couple of years? It has been obnoxiously droopy in its first year. What a scent, though!
Which are your favourite roses from the old rose classes everyone?
My best performer is Marie Pavié (polyantha, 1888), a near-continuous bloomer, beautiful, healthy foliage and best fragrance wafter. Other troopers are Cramoisi Superieur (china, 1818-ish) and Alister Stella Gray (noisette, 1894). However, my heart secretly lies with the portland/damasks and bourbons for their exquisite, voluptuous and highly-scented blooms.
I’ve shied away from gallicas, centifolias and albas so far, as they theoretically prefer cooler climates than mine. Teas should be my perfect rose class, but I’m finding them tricksy. Lady Hillingdon is currently the better of the three I have.
Cramoisi is now over, but Marie and Alister are still going:
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
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Dee-licious ! and thanks for taking the time, you have a fabulous collection of the most varied roses.
@PeterAberdeen
No need to bother Peter, they don't despatch to UK.. I asked him some time ago.
Loubert roots probably start out the same as TW et al, but they do root prune pretty heavily for dispatch, as do a few other French nurseries. I’ve never found it slows growth down compared to others, a sturdy graft and good strong canes are more important I think. I tend to pot mine up first anyway, so saves me the job of root trimming to fit!
My Jubilee Celebration which I will be moving this weekend. Those who have this rose, did it need so much support after a couple of years? It has been obnoxiously droopy in its first year. What a scent, though!
I’ve shied away from gallicas, centifolias and albas so far, as they theoretically prefer cooler climates than mine. Teas should be my perfect rose class, but I’m finding them tricksy. Lady Hillingdon is currently the better of the three I have.