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  • Chichi_7Chichi_7 Posts: 28
    @Marlorena okay perfect, thank you for your help!
  • Marlorena said:
    @rowlandscastle444
    I presume this rose you were given is in a pot?  it wasn't dug up straight from the ground was it?

    Either way, if you're not ready to plant it in the ground, you could keep it potted or repot into a larger pot for the summer.
    Yes, @Marlorena
    We were given the rose in a pot. My wife has already identified where she would like it to go - she thinks - but in order to make space, another rose of unknown type will have to be seriously pruned, and a couple of other shrubs removed. 

    Our new garden has been allowed to overrun a little. At this time of year, there seems to be very much a mish-mash of shrubs and trees, many of which I have not yet identified, but my wife is eager to dig stuff out and cut things back (translates to "watching me dig stuff out and watching me cut things back").

    It's not something we want to see in a pot long term.
    Thank you for your reply.
    I would like to deal with it within the next couple of weeks, due to health constraints, but if it's not the ideal time, then I can let my wife know she'll have to wait.
  • puschkiniapuschkinia Posts: 229
    Hi everyone, I pruned my climbing rose (Meg) a week or 2 ago, but I'm concerned I did something really dumb: there were large rosehips on the ends of the main canes, but those ends of the canes looked horrid (as though they were sick). I can't remember exactly how they looked and didn't take a photo unfortunately, but I just cut off those nasty ends. Will the canes still be able to grow next season? 
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    @puschkinia
    Well I should think so, yes, but without seeing a photo I can't say for sure.  Some people find it's a rose that doesn't live that long, but you were right to prune off the tips with the hips.

    @rowlandscastle444
    Yes that's perfectly fine to plant the rose anytime now, once you have cleared the ground and replenished the soil with some compost, manure etc.  or decent soil from elsewhere in the garden..   as it's potted it can be planted anytime but within the next month is good, as it won't matter if the compost comes loose when emptying from the pot.. . choose a time that suits you weatherwise..
    Do you know the name of your rose?.. 
    East Anglia, England
  • puschkiniapuschkinia Posts: 229
    edited 4 February
    Thanks @Marlorena. It was only a few inches that I cut so fingers crossed. I didn't realise it's not a long-lived rose. I was seriously considering digging it out and planting one that repeats better. The page I bought Meg from said it repeats and has a nice fragrance but neither are true. With a small garden I'd prefer plants that flower for as long as possible, but it's already been in the ground for about 3 years, seems very happy, and I wasn't too keen on the idea of rose replant disease!
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    Yes it's essentially a once blooming rose, but after only 3 years it wouldn't be too much trouble to replace it, some amendments to the soil would be good enough if you wanted another. 
    I have also found that if you replant just a foot or so either side of the original hole, it can help overcome any issues quicker. 
    East Anglia, England
  • rowlandscastle444rowlandscastle444 Posts: 2,612
    edited 4 February
    Marlorena said:

    @rowlandscastle444
    Yes that's perfectly fine to plant the rose anytime now, once you have cleared the ground and replenished the soil with some compost, manure etc.  or decent soil from elsewhere in the garden..   as it's potted it can be planted anytime but within the next month is good, as it won't matter if the compost comes loose when emptying from the pot.. . choose a time that suits you weatherwise..
    Do you know the name of your rose?.. 
    Thank you @Marlorena
    The rose is called William and Catherine. It's a white one. I'm not a fan of white roses, but my wife will like it.
  • puschkiniapuschkinia Posts: 229
    Marlorena said:
    Yes it's essentially a once blooming rose, but after only 3 years it wouldn't be too much trouble to replace it, some amendments to the soil would be good enough if you wanted another. 
    I have also found that if you replant just a foot or so either side of the original hole, it can help overcome any issues quicker. 
    Oh that's great to know! I'll do that in Autumn then. And I should be able to move it about a foot over.

    Ideally I'd want a claire austin in pink, but the closest I can find is generous gardener which might be a little too big. The "poor soil" tag that claire austin has on DA makes it a very appealing choice :lol:


  • Alfie_Alfie_ Posts: 456
    @Nollie - Chandos B is considered a modern HT. I asked the owner of Harkness last summer how he gets the blooms so large in the borders around the grounds of his shop and he said it needs to be cut down to the ground every year. I’ve tried this over the weekend; 5ft to 6 inches so will see this summer. I’ve also tried this with my champagne moment as it got over 7 foot last summer. Could have done with a chainsaw quite frankly. 

    Finally pruned all my roses this weekend. So many still had the full foliage from last summer. One Scarborough fair in a sheltered spot still had the unopened buds from the end of last summer and they were still pink and healthy looking. Weird. 

    Can I ask how people are pruning one year old roses which have put on only spindly growth. I only have one such rose; my other Scarborough fair. It has maybe 12 wafer thin stems. The only thick ones are the three short ones you would get with a bare root. Is it best left with no pruning at all or do I cut all really thin these off? 
  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    edited 4 February
    Alfie_ said:
    @Nollie - Chandos B is considered a modern HT. I asked the owner of Harkness last summer how he gets the blooms so large in the borders around the grounds of his shop and he said it needs to be cut down to the ground every year. I’ve tried this over the weekend; 5ft to 6 inches so will see this summer. I’ve also tried this with my champagne moment as it got over 7 foot last summer. 

    Interesting. I wonder if razing to the ground only works once the shrubs are properly established. I would have to take a very deep breath before razing CM or Chandos that only went in last year. Both look like they are doing well. I am going for quick height, if possible. Scenarios are a bit different if you have "staff" to watch plants with eagle eyes and leap when needed.

    Good to see you back @Alfie_ !  

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