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  • Lizzie27Lizzie27 Posts: 12,494
    Thanks for that additional information @Eustace, sounds even more like mine. I think I'll rename it!
    North East Somerset - Clay soil over limestone
  • DashaDasha Posts: 137
    @Marlorena sometime ago you mentioned that you liked the look of roses growing up a tree. Back then it was referring to Paul's Himalayan Musk. I just can't get this idea out of my head... but now that I know more about roses I'd rather choose a more manageable and repeat flowing rambler for this purpose. I was wondering if The Lady Of The Lake would be eligible given it has few thorns ( as far as I understand)?
  • DashaDasha Posts: 137
    edited September 2023
    Marlorena said:
    @Dasha
    Heya.. I don't grow Lady of the Lake, but from what I've seen it would appear to be very suitable for this purpose, depending on your tree.  What I don't like personally, is where a rose like Paul's Himalayan is used to totally obliterate a tree.  I grew that rose through a willow tree on a river bank bordering my property then, and realised after 2 seasons that it was destined to take over the tree..  this was not the look I wanted. I love trees, and can't see the point of growing a rambler through it to the point the tree becomes invisible.

    What I prefer is where you can train a suitable rose up the trunk and through its lower branches, right and left..  here's an example of what I mean.. this is 'Claire Jacquier' ..
    I find this the epitome of grace, it's not overpowering, it's relaxed yet feminine.. and it doesn't demolish the tree.
    I would think a similar result could be obtained with the rose of your choice, but please don't worry yourself about thorns.. they need thorns to cling, climb and weave their way through.. a climbing rose without thorns is something of a contradiction in terms...



    I look forward to seeing your progress with this exciting project.

    @Marlorena I am with you on this. Also not a fan of trees disappearing under massive ramblers.

    I am really itching to try either The Lady Of The Lake or The Generous Gardener (or both - I have plenty of trees :)) Would The Generous Gardener be too stiff or heavy for this exercise?

    You said "train up the trunk and through its lower branches" so I assume this means not to wrap it around the trunk but just go along? And I guess the same with branches, right?

    I have a few mature silver birches (all with multiple stems). In my imagination they look lovely with roses :) Thank you for your help once again!

    P.S. that photo is really inspiring! Don't think anything can stop me trying this now :)
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    Dasha said:


    I am really itching to try either The Lady Of The Lake or The Generous Gardener (or both - I have plenty of trees :)) Would The Generous Gardener be too stiff or heavy for this exercise?
    ..Well you could try, I've used similar roses for small trees but one with a cascading habit would be my choice these days I think.. i.e. rambler rather than climber, but whatever suits you best.

    You said "train up the trunk and through its lower branches" so I assume this means not to wrap it around the trunk but just go along? And I guess the same with branches, right?
    yes, that's right.. tie to the trunk as it grows.

    I have a few mature silver birches (all with multiple stems). In my imagination they look lovely with roses :) Thank you for your help once again!

    ..consider the clematis 'Perle d'Azur' for one of your birches too. Same with roses, just tie to the trunk until it reaches the branches.

    East Anglia, England
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    I meant to say, lovely roses @alfie .. especially the little vase selection, very cute.

    Crepuscule[?] looking much better @Nollie .. 
    East Anglia, England
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