Thanks so much @Marlorena for that advice on Ispahan and GdF. You're right, the Ispahan is rather large and it doesn't seem to mind being cut back at any time of the year. I did trim the shoots at the top of the rose arch in autumn but probably wasn't ruthless enough and they have regrown rapidly this last week or so. It soon regrows with fresh buds so I might risk doing it again.
That's one job saved on the GdF then! I've only just realized today that the clematis on the trellis nearby (C.Remembrance) is going to clash horribly so might dig this up and move it quick - can't bear clashing colour combos.
Growing a group 3 late flowering clematis with Mme. Isaac Pereire against a fence
How do you do it please?
Do you train the clematis along the same fence wires with the rose, just let it scramble through it willy nilly, plant it a reasonable distance away so it mostly has it’s own space and perhaps intermingle along the top?
Is this a good idea anyway given MIP doesn’t have the healthiest of foliage? I don’t want to create a diseased mess!
Obviously I’m looking at you Marlorena with your lovely rose/clematis combinations but if anyone has any good photo examples or advice I’m all ears..
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
Hi wams, I chose it because it has such a pretty colour. Unfortunately it didn't have many flowers last year, although the hot weather probably didn't help. I took a picture just now for you, and it looks quite healthy although the canes are a bit spindly. It seems to have come through the winter more successfully than Olivia Rose Austin, which is in a similar aspect but doesn't have as many leaves breaking through and has some die back 😐. I wonder if I prune too hard, none of my roses are as forward as the ones I see on here. Anyway, I digress, sorry! Here's the Shepherdess for you
@Nollie ''plant it a reasonable distance away so it mostly has it’s own space and perhaps intermingle along the top''
This...especially with that rose, although I think yours is well established now, but it's not easy pairing up a rose with a clematis if one isn't going to intimidate the other.. and viticella gr. 3's are not easy to control, they quickly get away from you. Not so much in the first year, but thereafter, some of them will totally swamp your rose.. I'm not familiar with 'Warsaw Nike' if it's that one, maybe not so large..
With a rose like Mme. I Pereire', I would prefer to use a gr. 2, grown that way or as a gr. 3.. these can be planted much closer, even so I admit to not sticking with my own advice here..
This is my Kew Gardens which, inspired by a recent photo from @Marlorena and @Mr. Vine Eye I think, I have wheeled into a new location to grow up, over and around the brick pillar and adjacent railings. That would need it to grow to about 1.5 x 1.5m or so. Is it up to that?
@owd potter If it was in the ground then, yes, but I've not grown it in a pot which may restrict its growth, so I cannot say really.. trial and error.. It'll be interesting to see..
Thought I would buy myself a couple of bags of 'specially formulated' rose compost, and going off the spiel on the back it seems to have quite a bit to live up to. What's intrigued me the most though is the 'added sulphur' as a means to help prevent blackspot etc. I assume that has to be taken up via the roots, a method I've never heard of before. In your extensive experience and knowledge @Marlorena, I was just wondering if you had come across such a method before...or is it just baloney.
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That's one job saved on the GdF then! I've only just realized today that the clematis on the trellis nearby (C.Remembrance) is going to clash horribly so might dig this up and move it quick - can't bear clashing colour combos.
How do you do it please?
Do you train the clematis along the same fence wires with the rose, just let it scramble through it willy nilly, plant it a reasonable distance away so it mostly has it’s own space and perhaps intermingle along the top?
Is this a good idea anyway given MIP doesn’t have the healthiest of foliage? I don’t want to create a diseased mess!
Obviously I’m looking at you Marlorena with your lovely rose/clematis combinations but if anyone has any good photo examples or advice I’m all ears..
I wonder if I prune too hard, none of my roses are as forward as the ones I see on here.
Anyway, I digress, sorry! Here's the Shepherdess for you
''plant it a reasonable distance away so it mostly has it’s own space and perhaps intermingle along the top''
This...especially with that rose, although I think yours is well established now, but it's
not easy pairing up a rose with a clematis if one isn't going to intimidate the other.. and viticella gr. 3's are not easy to control, they quickly get away from you. Not so much in the first year, but thereafter, some of them will totally swamp your rose..
I'm not familiar with 'Warsaw Nike' if it's that one, maybe not so large..
With a rose like Mme. I Pereire', I would prefer to use a gr. 2, grown that way or as a gr. 3.. these can be planted much closer, even so I admit to not sticking with my own advice here..
Is it up to that?
If it was in the ground then, yes, but I've not grown it in a pot which may restrict its growth, so I cannot say really.. trial and error..
It'll be interesting to see..
I'll be sure to keep you informed.
In your extensive experience and knowledge @Marlorena, I was just wondering if you had come across such a method before...or is it just baloney.