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ROSES - Spring/Summer 2023...

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  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    Some beauties there WAMS, I’m wistfully looking at your Boule de Neige especially since mine is close to joining Souvenir de Saint Anne’s MKII and the Vichy that wasn’t. Mme. Hardy was disappointing and so is Dominique Loiseau. Perhaps it’s time to give up on white roses, I’m clearly jinxed!
    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • ElbFeeElbFee Posts: 161
    @WAMS if you are looking for intense scent, healthy foliage, pearl white, cupped blooms and a substantial bush with a big bang first flush, then, yes, you need Hermione. Reblooming is not lush here. But that seems to be a general problem in my garden. 

    @Nollie I have Mme Hardy since 3 years. This was the first year it produced more than 1 bloom. I'd say, give it time. With your relocation coming up that might not be an option. Challenges...
    Hamburg, Germany, Zone 8a
  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    Ah but WAMS, strictly speaking they’re blush! It’s tcl crappy stock really.

    I would’ve given up on your Mme. Hardy way before now Elbfee, three years be damned - a non-blooming once-blooming rose is really not a good trait! Mine bloomed respectably and they were gorgeous, but it is long gone. An underwhelming fragrance and rain sensitivity were the main disappointments for me.
    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • WAMSWAMS Posts: 1,960
    It would be good if Trevor White could supply you there, Nollie... you make me want to cancel my TCL order but I think I will hold in on the off-chance that they do send Cymbeline...

    Is it permissible to breed roses from patented roses (or roses protected under PBR) does anyone happen to know?
  • cooldoccooldoc Posts: 853
    breeding should not be a problem I think @WAMS If I am not mistaken it should only be the vegetative reproduction that are banned.. 
    A rose lover from West midlands
  • WAMSWAMS Posts: 1,960
    Thanks @cooldoc... just paint fume-induced idle curiosity really lol
  • cooldoccooldoc Posts: 853
    Wouldn that be interesting if we get them to germinate and see how they perform over the years.. might be a dud but atleast it's your creation and you can gradually experiment more... a few have had success in this forum.. I might try my hand at hybridizing next year.. (or the next) 🤓
    A rose lover from West midlands
  • SYinUSASYinUSA Posts: 243
    Today I discovered one of my roses knocked over onto its side. The stem had broken off the main root. It is a Knockout and normally very vigorous and healthy. This one had been doing poorly (another one I bought at the same time is twice as big), so I suppose now I know why. There is still at least one decent-sized root intact, so I piled up some compost at the base to steady it. I don't think I buried it deeply enough to begin with so hopefully that's alright. Are there any opinions as to the likelihood of recovery? Do I need to prune it to reduce the amount of leaves that one root is trying to support?


  • Busy-LizzieBusy-Lizzie Posts: 24,043
    @Alfie_ I planted Open Arms by the porch of our first cottage in Norfolk 8 years ago. I love the flowers, simple, delicate and so pretty. We were only there 3 years and it had grown half way up the side of the porch. Now, 8 years later, we sometimes pass it and it is starting to grow on the porch roof, quite bushy with flowers right down to the bottom. I'm thinking of getting one for the gazebo that OH is going to buy me for my house in France. 

    Bit disappointing to hear that TCL make mistakes with their labelling. I was going to order some roses from them this winter. Is this their website https://www.rozenlottum.nl/en_GB/? Do they deliver to France? The site only says GB and Netherlands.
    Dordogne and Norfolk. Clay in Dordogne, sandy in Norfolk.
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