I'm trying to decide between Desdemona and Emily Bronte.
It will need to go in a pot as there is no ground space left. Well, technically there is, but it's reserved for Gabriel Oak. So it will go in a pot on the patio. Pot isn't bought yet so can be as big as necessary. It will be in full sun.
Fragrance and health are priority, but I also want it to be as floriforous as possible. Apparently fragrance on both is excellent but I can't decide.
Which would people recommend please?
Slowly building a wildlife garden, in a new build in East Yorkshire.
I love Emily Brontë, Jess, but mine (in year two) is not very floriferous. It is highly scented, pretty healthy, and has long-lasting flowers-- just not many of them. Then again, it isn't in full sun. Stupidly pretty, though.
But Desdemona (which I don't have yet) appears very floriferous, way more so than Emily B.
Pitter-patter... love the wallpaper, vase, all of it. Isn't Florentina lovely?
Penelope Lively is blooming again... seemed to come around quickly. But it would be on the ground if unsupported.
Mary Delaney - sums up many of my roses, a few very pretty blooms and lots of fungus covered leaves
My lavender “anouk” has moved to its permanent pot
And these are my favourite plants at the moment, my scented pelargoniums which are growing inside - bought as just rooted cuttings. Pungent peppermint, Lavender Lindy, Brilliantine (eau de cologne) and Attar of Roses. Gorgeous rose scent on that. I’ve also got Mabel Grey which smells like lemon sherbet.
I used to have scented Pelargoniums.. very pungent.. one I remember smelt of Cinnamon..
Lovely vase of roses @pitter-patter .. Leah Tutu is gorgeous isn't it? I nearly bought it in the Spring, as it can be trained as a short climber.. Tottering seedling looks as good as the original..
I would plant Desdemona in the ground, Gabriel Oak in a pot, and leave Emily Bronte perhaps for another day.. just my 2p on that..
@Jess91 .. because 'Desdemona' establishes quickly in the ground and soon becomes a highly desirable shrub rose, with fewer petals than GO it seems less fussy to me... I had 3 GO's and found them all spindly and difficult in my soil conditions here for the first couple of years.. I felt it would benefit from growing in a pot where it can be spoilt with tlc.. besides it has a better scent I think and well worth a place on the patio..
Spent the morning picking off fried leaves, pruning out dead or scorched canes and clearing up after the last heatwave - and vowing not to buy any more roses. Ha, I’ll forget about that come next week, especially since the temperature has dropped more than 20c in the space of 24hrs and a duvet was required last night! Ah for the perfect weather-proof, healthy, floriferous, fragrant rose.
A few sheltered survivors..
Roald Dahl, small but sweet blooms:
Souvenir de Marcel Proust, not the most productive but does retain colour well:
Avalanche Abricot with a cute button eye:
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
I always feel so much better about the roses when I've done a ruthless tidy up @Nollie. While they're devastated I want to bin them all but that feeling quickly goes after sorting them even if they then look sparse. A tidied shrub represents hope and a devastated one sorrow and regret I hope you get another rewarding flush.
I think, following your advice to Jess @Marlorena I will try and find an in ground spot for Desdemona, it just isn't happy on my patio and fries, blooms go over quickly, needs huge amounts of water and just generally isn't the fab rose everyone raves about.
Do you mean your Penelope Lively has weak canes WAMS? I'm finding mine quite shapely so far. This is 2 btw and I have high hopes, I won't be pleased if they flop Edit to add pic of another newbie, Savoy Hotel, which I am pleased with too so far.
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It will need to go in a pot as there is no ground space left. Well, technically there is, but it's reserved for Gabriel Oak. So it will go in a pot on the patio. Pot isn't bought yet so can be as big as necessary. It will be in full sun.
Fragrance and health are priority, but I also want it to be as floriforous as possible. Apparently fragrance on both is excellent but I can't decide.
Which would people recommend please?
Stupidly pretty, though.
But Desdemona (which I don't have yet) appears very floriferous, way more so than Emily B.
Pitter-patter... love the wallpaper, vase, all of it. Isn't Florentina lovely?
Penelope Lively is blooming again... seemed to come around quickly. But it would be on the ground if unsupported.
Lovely vase of roses @pitter-patter .. Leah Tutu is gorgeous isn't it? I nearly bought it in the Spring, as it can be trained as a short climber..
Tottering seedling looks as good as the original..
I would plant Desdemona in the ground, Gabriel Oak in a pot, and leave Emily Bronte perhaps for another day.. just my 2p on that..
.. because 'Desdemona' establishes quickly in the ground and soon becomes a highly desirable shrub rose, with fewer petals than GO it seems less fussy to me...
I had 3 GO's and found them all spindly and difficult in my soil conditions here for the first couple of years.. I felt it would benefit from growing in a pot where it can be spoilt with tlc.. besides it has a better scent I think and well worth a place on the patio..
A few sheltered survivors..
Roald Dahl, small but sweet blooms:
Souvenir de Marcel Proust, not the most productive but does retain colour well:
Avalanche Abricot with a cute button eye: