those arches are quite impressive. Will be a lovely sight in june
Did somebody not complain about the yellow siluetta last year? I have a vague memory about it.
Walferdange is also a hybrid musk and I must say it really performed well last year. Everything was fried last year with that heat wave in the same border except … That Comtesse is a rose that is always on my shortlist .( never made it too many options every year )
@JessicaS Nice selection of Clematis from Morrison's... will you be potting them on or planting right away?.. I have a few of those I think.
@Nollie Your roses are looking superb... Thomas a Becket especially for a young plant and I can see buds.. I found it to be in continuous bloom production once it got started...
I showed both roses to Mum and we actually agreed (That is quite the novelty). Taking all your advice on board we decided on Westerland, due to the intensity of the colour, as this rose is most likely to be looked on from a distance. The climbing habit actually is what I was looking for and if we can get late June till late August I will be happy, as it is going into a mixed border, infront of the Albertine which is being trained up the granite wall.
It is on the list for getting during bare-root season.
The work has started with the removal of a cotoneaster and a willow. Time for a G&T and to raise a glass to @Nollie@JessicaS and @Marlorena
I went to the garden centre today and they had a few of the roses I’m considering.
I’ve now discounted Comte de Chambord on account of the thorns
They also had St Ethelburga, which I was tempted by. It looks a little on the spiky side though, @Marlorena did you notice whether it was particularly thorny?
They also had Natasha Richardson, although these were much smaller plants. Has anyone grown this rose?
They had a lot of the Oxford Physic Rose - this says fragrant rather than very fragrant. I know this was only launched last year so wondering if anyone knows this one as well?
I'm sure it'll look lovely when completed Peter @PeterAberdeen Perhaps you envisage something like this... 'Westerland', kept to shrub form is on the right of picture..
@agnasia I was at Peter Beales nursery today and those very same roses, in the same pots and looking identical, are selling at £28.50, so I'd say that's a good price there..
Some roses are very thorny at the base, but less so further up.. when I saw 'St. Ethelburga' I did not notice any excessive thorns, but I wasn't looking for them, so they may well be there as coincidentally the seed parent is said to be 'Comte de Chambord'... whose thorns incidentally are not half as bad as it looks as they're quite small, even though numerous all the way down the stem.. very typical of these types of roses..
'Comte de Chambord' is also seed parent of 'Gertrude Jekyll', I understand.. hence the thorns there too..
@agnasia In my limited time with CdeC, I found it be prone to balling quite badly. Has a weeping habit (atleast in its 1st year). Fragrance was good though. I remember PB not mentioning much about Oxford physic's fragrance when it was announced last year, so I would'nt think it would be fragrant enough if that is what you are looking for.
Your Guirlande is magnificent @Imprevu. Looks amazing as a standard rose too.
I think Westerland would be perfect for that spot @PeterAberdeen, it should really pop from a distance, so glad your mum liked it 😊
@Mr. Vine Eye there was a discussion on another forum a while back purple splotches on canes and, apart from extreme cold causing that, the consensus was cane canker so you are probably right to prune it out. Extra large thorns were not mentioned, that may indicate some sort of plant pathology issue, but that’s just an uneducated guess!
Don’t all those potted roses look good enough to eat! I have Lens’ Violet Hood new this year and the foliage is luscious on that too.
Love Sally Holmes grown as a large shrub, Marlorena, that will be a sight to see.
Yes it’s all taking off here, shame about the damn rose slugs currently munching their way through all that lovely new foliage though!
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@Marlorena oh thank you, so yes the prices are really good then!
So interesting to consider the heritage of the roses and it all then makes perfect sense! Quite a few of my roses are much more thorny at the base and then much less elsewhere, including my Roald Dahl. I think as long as the thorns are not excessive.
@cooldoc thank you for sharing your experience with CdeC. Is the weeping similar to the lax habit of Austin’s as I guess I’m somewhat used to that?!
I am looking for fragrant, but it doesn’t have to be super strong, something that wafts nicely as it will be by a seating area, so it would be a shame to not have a fragrant option.
@Marlorena ive planted half straight out, potted on the rest. Lots of nesting birds so im limited which borders I can plant in currently so I dont disturb them. I planted one and a robin fledgeling suddenly waddled out of a bush and over my feet so they must have flown the nest today! 3 of them hilariously crashing about in the borders so I moved elsewhere. @PeterAberdeen Great! Good luck with the ground prep.
I liked that Oxford physic last year but it sold out. Im curious on fragrance too. Ive got a lot of that colour though.
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those arches are quite impressive. Will be a lovely sight in june
Did somebody not complain about the yellow siluetta last year? I have a vague memory about it.
That Comtesse is a rose that is always on my shortlist .( never made it too many options every year )
Nice selection of Clematis from Morrison's... will you be potting them on or planting right away?.. I have a few of those I think.
@Nollie
Your roses are looking superb... Thomas a Becket especially for a young plant and I can see buds.. I found it to be in continuous bloom production once it got started...
I showed both roses to Mum and we actually agreed (That is quite the novelty). Taking all your advice on board we decided on Westerland, due to the intensity of the colour, as this rose is most likely to be looked on from a distance. The climbing habit actually is what I was looking for and if we can get late June till late August I will be happy, as it is going into a mixed border, infront of the Albertine which is being trained up the granite wall.
It is on the list for getting during bare-root season.
The work has started with the removal of a cotoneaster and a willow. Time for a G&T and to raise a glass to @Nollie @JessicaS and @Marlorena
I’ve now discounted Comte de Chambord on account of the thorns
Perhaps you envisage something like this... 'Westerland', kept to shrub form is on the right of picture..
I was at Peter Beales nursery today and those very same roses, in the same pots and looking identical, are selling at £28.50, so I'd say that's a good price there..
Some roses are very thorny at the base, but less so further up.. when I saw 'St. Ethelburga' I did not notice any excessive thorns, but I wasn't looking for them, so they may well be there as coincidentally the seed parent is said to be 'Comte de Chambord'... whose thorns incidentally are not half as bad as it looks as they're quite small, even though numerous all the way down the stem.. very typical of these types of roses..
'Comte de Chambord' is also seed parent of 'Gertrude Jekyll', I understand.. hence the thorns there too..
I remember PB not mentioning much about Oxford physic's fragrance when it was announced last year, so I would'nt think it would be fragrant enough if that is what you are looking for.
I think Westerland would be perfect for that spot @PeterAberdeen, it should really pop from a distance, so glad your mum liked it 😊
@Mr. Vine Eye there was a discussion on another forum a while back purple splotches on canes and, apart from extreme cold causing that, the consensus was cane canker so you are probably right to prune it out. Extra large thorns were not mentioned, that may indicate some sort of plant pathology issue, but that’s just an uneducated guess!
Don’t all those potted roses look good enough to eat! I have Lens’ Violet Hood new this year and the foliage is luscious on that too.
Love Sally Holmes grown as a large shrub, Marlorena, that will be a sight to see.
So interesting to consider the heritage of the roses and it all then makes perfect sense! Quite a few of my roses are much more thorny at the base and then much less elsewhere, including my Roald Dahl. I think as long as the thorns are not excessive.
@cooldoc thank you for sharing your experience with CdeC. Is the weeping similar to the lax habit of Austin’s as I guess I’m somewhat used to that?!
I am looking for fragrant, but it doesn’t have to be super strong, something that wafts nicely as it will be by a seating area, so it would be a shame to not have a fragrant option.
@PeterAberdeen Great! Good luck with the ground prep.
I liked that Oxford physic last year but it sold out. Im curious on fragrance too. Ive got a lot of that colour though.