Penelope does look really good, hopefully it will get over initial health teething if not magically become thornless! From what I’ve seen and heard I much prefer it to Dannahue. Not that I’ll see either for some years yet.
@Alfie_ maybe a touch, though it clearly hasn’t stopped it doing it at the top. You could just clear away the mulch around the graft a bit. Removing those small shoots is tricky as there is nothing to get hold of. A few of those I had to gouge out with a penknife, not ‘correct’ but seems to have worked, so far..
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
@Nollie thanks to your list of Generosas at Guillot I visited their website and found Fiona Gelin. I had it but it did not survive the winter. It is marked +++fragrant. Mine was between + and ++. Since you asked about the fragrance in general. Winter temperatures should not be a problem where you are. Uplifting your garden will be a challenge. Are you moving North to get away from the heat? Apropos heat. Louis has its first bloom and after 12 hours in full sun at 31 degrees (in the shade), is a bit crispy around the edges. Scent is always there, morning, day, evening.
@WAMS I love the mauve ones, true. You are looking at Charles de Gaulle. I had it. Petit Prince grows much taller and more vigorous. Scent was ok but not overwhelming on Charles d.G. Thank you for the picture of Starlight Symphony. Looks like I will have to enjoy it vicariously. This is how mine looks after it deigned to put out its first bloom after 2 years of sleep. I am thinking Claude Monet. As I was expecting a climber I will have to move it to the foreground. Where it will probably sulk for another 2 years or so.
Might have to enjoy a painter's poppy while waiting for the painter's rose.
@LateralBreaks did you deadhead your Stan? Mine refuses to rebloom, always.
First bloom on another one of my May bare root shopping spree. The scent is already very strong. But will this colour develop into Gentle Hermione? James L. Austing peeping in the background.
What a difference a day makes, lalala...
And another first bloom from said May purchase. Am a bit irritated by the white stripes which I cannot find on any picture I checked online.
True, true, looses the individual bloom very fast. But they keep coming constantly. I like.
Hope everyone does ok with the terrible heat forecasted for today. Stay hydrated, please.
Ooh, feel for those of you in the heat. The before pic of Airbrush is so lovely, @Elbfee... what a shame. Here it is 12 deg and soggy and we had to put the electric blanket on for a little while last night!
Is Stanwell essentially a once-bloomer then? That would be a black mark against it... I need more black marks, please.
Penelope L is indeed improving for me, Nollie. Not sure about the height, uprightness, thornlessness, but their claim that it fades to lavender seems true. This bloom is 5 days old and still firm, but turning a very lovely pale pink lilac that my phone can't capture.
Good info about Charles de G, ElbFee. My mother had it in her garden under quite different conditions so it would be interesting to see if it did OK here. I am really excited about Petit Prince... and Abraham Darby... roll on next year.
If I could trust TCL to send the right roses I would experiment more with Guillots through them, since they are a third of the price, but I will probably just do a smaller order from them direct @ElbFee. I’ll stick to the ‘puissant’ ones apart from Versigny which is meant to be heat tolerant. I have lost the odd rose to winter cold, but the more tender tea/noisette types, never a modern.
OH and I have been mulling the downsizing-retirement project for a while but east to the more temperate coast rather than north. Roses will still need to be heat tolerant, so I will only take the best and any discontinued favourites. We keep putting it off because despite the heat it will be a huge wrench to leave our wild paradise. Meanwhile, I really need to cut down, not add to, the number of roses because the watering is becoming a chore. I fail in that endeavour every year, but perhaps Tuesday’s predicted 43c and a garden of crispy critters will concentrate the mind!
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
@LateralBreaks did you deadhead your Stan? Mine refuses to rebloom, always.
Yes, I dead head my Stanwell Perpetual @ElbFee , though it can be a bit tricky as the flowers are not clustered at the tips of branches but very much in the midst of thorny stems. (That may be another negative to put you off @WAMS )
I read somewhere that Stanwell needed full sun to be truly perpetual, so it has one of the prime spots in my garden and is performing very well for me in its first year.
I'm sorry ElbFee's Stan is not reblooming but it just show how variable and fussy roses can be depending on a whole lot of factors.
Don't grow up - grow sideways.
Gardening in the West Midlands on a mix of neutral loamy sand & Victorian building rubble.
@PeterAberdeen@crighton03 so yeah they can be split between u both. They are still both quite young but am sure will do well. Jude is currently in a pot whereas munstead is in the ground so I will need to pot it up.
@Daniel Rutherford - you are a superstar - I was so taken by Munster Wood and then deflated when I was told it was discontinued.
Just let us know when ready - there is absolutely no rush, so later in the year is fine and I can arrange for the pickup. Needless to say I echo @crighton03 and will gladly make a donation to the charity of your choosing for the rose.
Took a quick run round the garden to see what was going on - in-between the frequent deluges and heat - so still humid and muggy here. I have prayed for it to come over to you @Nollie to give you some respite.
Here are todays observations.
The unknown Yellow is still pumping out the blooms and remarkably unconcerned by the weather. No wonder Mum kept her in the garden for over 40 years.
Zephirine also still pumping out the blooms and a really eye-watering magenta. In real life it is not as retina searing as the photograph:
Dorothy Perkins (one of two) has suddenly decided to join the show and opened her first cluster - and no mildew in sight:
Gerty is looking very sorry for herself and sulking, but she did get the worst of the sawfly invasion, any advise gladly received:
Slow to the party but beautiful all the same is Goujard:
Finishing her first flush up North is Lady of Shalott. Really impressed with the way she goes over with complete grace:
The Dr W. Van Fleet (thanks @Marlorena for the identification) that fell on me and got hacked back is bouncing back with gusto up his new trellis. I look forward to next year when he will bloom again, but in the meantime he is getting tied in. Interestingly he is curling under the gutter at the top and I feel the need to train him round the summerhouse roofline. Also waiting for the Hollyhocks to bloom:
Finishing off with my non-rose pictures - the lilies are doing well, this year:
Lady Emma Hamilton in pot. Not sure why the new branches are dropping. I’ve checked for vine weevil and can’t see anything. Any ideas? Lady of Shalott is recovering nicely
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@WAMS I love the mauve ones, true. You are looking at Charles de Gaulle. I had it. Petit Prince grows much taller and more vigorous. Scent was ok but not overwhelming on Charles d.G. Thank you for the picture of Starlight Symphony. Looks like I will have to enjoy it vicariously. This is how mine looks after it deigned to put out its first bloom after 2 years of sleep. I am thinking Claude Monet. As I was expecting a climber I will have to move it to the foreground. Where it will probably sulk for another 2 years or so.
Might have to enjoy a painter's poppy while waiting for the painter's rose.
@LateralBreaks did you deadhead your Stan? Mine refuses to rebloom, always.
First bloom on another one of my May bare root shopping spree. The scent is already very strong. But will this colour develop into Gentle Hermione? James L. Austing peeping in the background.
What a difference a day makes, lalala...
And another first bloom from said May purchase. Am a bit irritated by the white stripes which I cannot find on any picture I checked online.
True, true, looses the individual bloom very fast. But they keep coming constantly. I like.
Hope everyone does ok with the terrible heat forecasted for today. Stay hydrated, please.
Is Stanwell essentially a once-bloomer then? That would be a black mark against it... I need more black marks, please.
Penelope L is indeed improving for me, Nollie. Not sure about the height, uprightness, thornlessness, but their claim that it fades to lavender seems true. This bloom is 5 days old and still firm, but turning a very lovely pale pink lilac that my phone can't capture.
Good info about Charles de G, ElbFee. My mother had it in her garden under quite different conditions so it would be interesting to see if it did OK here. I am really excited about Petit Prince... and Abraham Darby... roll on next year.
OH and I have been mulling the downsizing-retirement project for a while but east to the more temperate coast rather than north. Roses will still need to be heat tolerant, so I will only take the best and any discontinued favourites. We keep putting it off because despite the heat it will be a huge wrench to leave our wild paradise. Meanwhile, I really need to cut down, not add to, the number of roses because the watering is becoming a chore. I fail in that endeavour every year, but perhaps Tuesday’s predicted 43c and a garden of crispy critters will concentrate the mind!
Stan should be perpetually blooming. Only mine doesn't. Sorry @WAMS there is nothing wrong with Stan in general.
The unknown Yellow is still pumping out the blooms and remarkably unconcerned by the weather. No wonder Mum kept her in the garden for over 40 years.
Zephirine also still pumping out the blooms and a really eye-watering magenta. In real life it is not as retina searing as the photograph:
Dorothy Perkins (one of two) has suddenly decided to join the show and opened her first cluster - and no mildew in sight:
Gerty is looking very sorry for herself and sulking, but she did get the worst of the sawfly invasion, any advise gladly received:
Slow to the party but beautiful all the same is Goujard:
Finishing her first flush up North is Lady of Shalott. Really impressed with the way she goes over with complete grace:
The Dr W. Van Fleet (thanks @Marlorena for the identification) that fell on me and got hacked back is bouncing back with gusto up his new trellis. I look forward to next year when he will bloom again, but in the meantime he is getting tied in. Interestingly he is curling under the gutter at the top and I feel the need to train him round the summerhouse roofline. Also waiting for the Hollyhocks to bloom:
Finishing off with my non-rose pictures - the lilies are doing well, this year:
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