@owd potter thank you so much for the detailed response, it’s interesting your GG is only a little younger than mine and it’s grown so well. It definitely needs moving!
Seeing all of the stages of growth is so useful thank you. It looks like it needs some room to spread width ways, especially if the canes have a tendency to grow out first. Unfortunately my pergola is only a single so it’s just the width of the post, I’m not sure it would be happy to wrap around it, seems like it’s too narrow. I could look in to adding trellis but that may mean moving some of the existing planting, including the fern. Or I could add wires between the posts for the rose - would that be strong/supportive enough?
Or I could swap the fern and the rose? Move the rose to where the fern is and vice versa, then I can use the wires on the fence. The only issue potentially is that the fence is not in the best condition, we had it secured for our neighbour (an elderly lady) so it may be replaced at some point.
Or I could plant it the other side of the pergola post, but would need to move or extend the training wires as there isn’t anything there at the moment to support it.
@Nollie your roses look fab, I love your Madame Isaac Pereire!
@JessicaS I love wisteria, looks like it will be spectacular! Your garden is looking so full of life.
@ciaranmcgrenera I’m a complete novice but I would definitely plant salvia with your rose, I’ve done similar with Emily Brontë and it’s worked really well.
@WAMS I’ve had Shropshire Lad a few years, it was a gift. Sometimes it pretty much succumbs to blackspot and at other times of the year looks really pretty. It’s hard for me to say if I would recommend it.
@Marlorena thanks for explaining it as pegging, that makes sense now and a lot less complicated than I thought. I probably won’t have time for trying it, but feel a bit more informed about it.
Don’t suppose there is any thought on what the new DA might be? I was also wondering about the discontinued roses, how do you find out what might be being discontinued and why? Is it mostly to do with lack of disease resistance?
How are those beautiful Pheno Geno roses doing? I am thinking about buying a couple when bare roots are available again.
I don’t have any roses in flower yet and the tulips are still here. Perhaps it’s to do with the temperature of the soil as while we’ve had a few sunny or warm days they haven’t lasted. But everything seems late, not even a peony in flower in my garden.
@newbie77 found this lad curled up this morning in a Tulip…
Activity in my garden is lower than usual too. I’ve come across loads but the plants they devastated last year are untouched and thriving. I’m crediting some copper collars and a couple of bird feeding stations I’ve put in dramatically increasing bird traffic…
It's another big year for snails, newbie77.... perhaps they have all migrated here. We got our stricken ash tree down at last (RIP nice tree) and I was amazed how many little snails there were up there on the part that was still partly alive.🤔
Good to know @Littlegarden... I won't pine too much for that rose then!
My two early Gertrude buds developed into frost-deformed mutants like this: So that's my first. A lot of new buds already showing colour, I think it is two weeks for the first nice blooms and 3-4 weeks for the full flush. Some early blackspot too, I think I was a bit too late with feeding and I didn't do any pruning.
This is 'Mrs. Herbert Stevens, cl.', full of buds (but hard to photograph). I planned to do a half arch for her. It took some time to take off (finally did last year). I'll have to do something about the support after the first flush. I could also do some kind of horizontal support, linking her to 'La Belle Rouge' on the obelisk instead of the narrow vertical arch... some thinking to do.
@Nollie I've been checking on your roses every day, they are so lush and happy looking! You are almost two months ahead of me but as we have many roses in common, I have your pictures to see what will (hopefully) come for me too.
@PeterAberdeen Gertrude is one of my favourites. It does like sun though, I wouldn't put in shade. She's also very thorny so careful with her in narrow places where you need to be able to walk around.
Sorry @Marlorena I missed your comment. Thank you, yes I have a tendency to plan ahead! I will spend a bit of time in the garden to see what feels right, I can get over analytical and then procrastinate (see my lack of decision on a rose for my pot!) but I know it’s important to move it.
Hi folks, I'm tempted to dig up this DA Desdemona as it's far behind and obviously poorly. It has a little new basal growth, but it massively behind the rest of my roses
Would you persevere or bin ? Rose is around 4-5 years old. I have another Desdemona 3 feet away and whilst small and lagging has three times the growth
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Seeing all of the stages of growth is so useful thank you. It looks like it needs some room to spread width ways, especially if the canes have a tendency to grow out first. Unfortunately my pergola is only a single so it’s just the width of the post, I’m not sure it would be happy to wrap around it, seems like it’s too narrow. I could look in to adding trellis but that may mean moving some of the existing planting, including the fern. Or I could add wires between the posts for the rose - would that be strong/supportive enough?
Or I could plant it the other side of the pergola post, but would need to move or extend the training wires as there isn’t anything there at the moment to support it.
@JessicaS I love wisteria, looks like it will be spectacular! Your garden is looking so full of life.
@ciaranmcgrenera I’m a complete novice but I would definitely plant salvia with your rose, I’ve done similar with Emily Brontë and it’s worked really well.
Don’t suppose there is any thought on what the new DA might be?
I was also wondering about the discontinued roses, how do you find out what might be being discontinued and why? Is it mostly to do with lack of disease resistance?
How are those beautiful Pheno Geno roses doing? I am thinking about buying a couple when bare roots are available again.
I don’t have any roses in flower yet and the tulips are still here. Perhaps it’s to do with the temperature of the soil as while we’ve had a few sunny or warm days they haven’t lasted. But everything seems late, not even a peony in flower in my garden.
Good to know @Littlegarden... I won't pine too much for that rose then!
'Marie Nabonnand'... a week later than usual..
I must say I like these Geum 'Banana Daiquiri'..
Spent the day at Peter Beales, none of their roses are out either..
So that's my first. A lot of new buds already showing colour, I think it is two weeks for the first nice blooms and 3-4 weeks for the full flush.
Some early blackspot too, I think I was a bit too late with feeding and I didn't do any pruning.
This is 'Mrs. Herbert Stevens, cl.', full of buds (but hard to photograph). I planned to do a half arch for her. It took some time to take off (finally did last year). I'll have to do something about the support after the first flush. I could also do some kind of horizontal support, linking her to 'La Belle Rouge' on the obelisk instead of the narrow vertical arch... some thinking to do.
@PeterAberdeen Gertrude is one of my favourites. It does like sun though, I wouldn't put in shade. She's also very thorny so careful with her in narrow places where you need to be able to walk around.
Would you persevere or bin ? Rose is around 4-5 years old. I have another Desdemona 3 feet away and whilst small and lagging has three times the growth