Unusual roses ^ ^^ ... all looking great.. it's time the weather warmed up a bit here,..
@agnasia I suspected as much, do you know what that tree is? it looks like a Malus [crab apple]?.. even if it isn't, your rose obviously isn't happy with the proximity of that tree and if it was mine, I'd be digging it up and moving it somewhere else.. plant a non rose plant in its place.. I'm not saying for sure this is the reason, but other plants in the rose family [rosaceae], like Malus, Sorbus, Pyracantha, can cause problems for roses, however saying that, we often grow a rose up an apple tree without difficulty, so not always the case..
Even if that tree is some other type, I'd still move your rose.. p.s. don't bother with sprays.. I haven't used one in over 35 years.. and roses like The GG really don't need it anyway under normal circumstances.. All my roses have aphids, but they will still be blooming away next month..
@Meomye Yes I grow roses in my shady border, changing over the years... it's not a question of names so much, more of size and type of rose.. the shady site also needs to be open, not caused by overhanging trees or large shrubs, but nearby buildings. My site faces north/north west.. Sun only for 1 hour early, then late afternoon, and none at all autumn/winter.. Choose shrub roses that grow 3.5 feet or taller.. do not grow Hybrid Teas in this environment. If you like David Austin's, then all I've had there have done well.. Some names, past and present.. 'Thomas a Becket'. 'Royal Jubilee'.. 'Tranquillity'.. 'Nye Bevan'.. 'The Poet's Wife' [exceptional]..'The Lady Gardener'.. 'Elizabeth'.. 'Forever Royal'.. and one of the very best 'Scented Garden' [Style Roses].. 'Kathleen Harrop'.. 'Lucky' is another doing well for me..
All these are vigorous shrub roses, that's what you should be looking for.. Perennials like phlox paniculata and Thalictrums do well as companions.. my underplantings are Brunneras, and Tulips plus lots of Foxgloves..
My friendly local tree surgeon says that people rarely look above 4 m. Looks like that applies to neighbours' trees as well.
Regarding spray. "natural ingredients" will be chemicals too, often nasty ones. What is this that stops mildew and mites, yet spares bees and wildlife?
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Thanks @Victoria Sponge, we’ve had some decent rain recently so that’s really helped the garden get going. I rather like ‘not Crépuscule’ too, but so far it does spoil horribly in rain. I always look forward to your rose choices, there is often a few unusual ones in there.
I’ve often wondered that when I see people growing roses up apple trees Marlorena. Plant in the same hole of a former apple tree or other member of the rosaceae family and you risk RRD, plant a rose nearby/to grow up one and you don’t, even though the roots must surely intermingle. Same if you plant a rose near another, that seems to be fine. No idea how that works..
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Thanks for the useful list of names for shade @Marlorena I too have a wall facing North West and needed some advise. I like your Tottering on that obelisk, in fact I bought a Tottering too after looking at your photos from last year.
Unfortunately, I don’t even remember where I planted it in the garden. How do you all remember where are you roses? Do you use some kind of plant labels?
@Nollie your Blue for you has a much more intense color than mine! Your roses all look wonderful. I too am curious about you not-Crepuscule, let us know if you find out which rose that is.
Today my MAC is in full bloom, but I can’t go out and take pictures because it’s raining. Anyway I think I’ll need to get rid of it, since it’s too much big and right now I cant think of letting it grow on the house wall as initially planned, I lack the energy and time to do so. The MAC does well in the North facing corner, but it grows like a monster!
I’ve tried identifying the tree @Marlorena, it may be some type of amelanchier? There is blossom but then no fruit so I don’t think it’s a malus. But either way, I agree that it needs to move.
Would GG be happier on the fence or up the pergola do you think? I’ve trained wires for it across the fence so could move to the other end. If I plant it in the blue circle it will be behind eustacia and then I can train it across the fence. Or I can move it to the yellow circle and up the pergola?
Thank you for the advice on sprays, when I first planted up the garden I bought anything and everything! To be honest I don’t really use them as a general rule but I was getting desperate to help GG! I agree @bédé there must be chemicals in it. I also feel quite stupid for not considering what was next door, seems rather obvious now!!!
@agnasia Don't worry about it, I'm sure we've all done something similar..
As for replanting, up to you of course, I'd probably go with the yellow area.. I'm not keen on roses next to ferns but it's your garden, so you plant wherever you think it's best..
@dabolem I keep lists.. and labels, but I always know which rose is which.. only trouble I have is with photos from earlier years, and I often cannot work out which rose I'm looking at, some long since forgotten..
Thanks @Marlorena, do you think GG would be happy growing up the pergola - are the canes flexible enough do you think? Or is it better suited to covering a fence?
@Nollie your garden is such a joy, so lovely to see your roses.
@Victoria Sponge you have such a wonderful variety of potted roses, I am intrigued by Florence Delattre and seeing its colour.
I think there is a lot of fun in buying something a bit random and seeing how it turns out. It may or may not work out
I have been as good as a gumdrop this weekend and in between the downpours I managed to find spaces to plant all my potted daffodils when they have flowered. I also put 30 pots of bulbs in the green and perennials in the ground and created about 20 oxlips from a big plant I split and from weeding the brick path. Still got a fair bit to do, I ordered too many bulbs and plants last year, some of them had been sat around for months and a few had drowned/rotted.
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I suspected as much, do you know what that tree is? it looks like a Malus [crab apple]?.. even if it isn't, your rose obviously isn't happy with the proximity of that tree and if it was mine, I'd be digging it up and moving it somewhere else.. plant a non rose plant in its place..
I'm not saying for sure this is the reason, but other plants in the rose family [rosaceae], like Malus, Sorbus, Pyracantha, can cause problems for roses, however saying that, we often grow a rose up an apple tree without difficulty, so not always the case..
Even if that tree is some other type, I'd still move your rose..
p.s. don't bother with sprays.. I haven't used one in over 35 years.. and roses like The GG really don't need it anyway under normal circumstances..
All my roses have aphids, but they will still be blooming away next month..
Yes I grow roses in my shady border, changing over the years... it's not a question of names so much, more of size and type of rose.. the shady site also needs to be open, not caused by overhanging trees or large shrubs, but nearby buildings. My site faces north/north west.. Sun only for 1 hour early, then late afternoon, and none at all autumn/winter..
Choose shrub roses that grow 3.5 feet or taller.. do not grow Hybrid Teas in this environment.
If you like David Austin's, then all I've had there have done well..
Some names, past and present..
'Thomas a Becket'. 'Royal Jubilee'.. 'Tranquillity'.. 'Nye Bevan'.. 'The Poet's Wife' [exceptional]..'The Lady Gardener'.. 'Elizabeth'.. 'Forever Royal'.. and one of the very best 'Scented Garden' [Style Roses].. 'Kathleen Harrop'.. 'Lucky' is another doing well for me..
All these are vigorous shrub roses, that's what you should be looking for..
Perennials like phlox paniculata and Thalictrums do well as companions.. my underplantings are Brunneras, and Tulips plus lots of Foxgloves..
Do give it a try..
Regarding spray. "natural ingredients" will be chemicals too, often nasty ones. What is this that stops mildew and mites, yet spares bees and wildlife?
"Have nothing in your garden that you don't know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful."
I’ve often wondered that when I see people growing roses up apple trees Marlorena. Plant in the same hole of a former apple tree or other member of the rosaceae family and you risk RRD, plant a rose nearby/to grow up one and you don’t, even though the roots must surely intermingle. Same if you plant a rose near another, that seems to be fine. No idea how that works..
Unfortunately, I don’t even remember where I planted it in the garden. How do you all remember where are you roses? Do you use some kind of plant labels?
@Nollie your Blue for you has a much more intense color than mine! Your roses all look wonderful. I too am curious about you not-Crepuscule, let us know if you find out which rose that is.
Today my MAC is in full bloom, but I can’t go out and take pictures because it’s raining. Anyway I think I’ll need to get rid of it, since it’s too much big and right now I cant think of letting it grow on the house wall as initially planned, I lack the energy and time to do so. The MAC does well in the North facing corner, but it grows like a monster!
Don't worry about it, I'm sure we've all done something similar..
As for replanting, up to you of course, I'd probably go with the yellow area.. I'm not keen on roses next to ferns but it's your garden, so you plant wherever you think it's best..
@dabolem
I keep lists.. and labels, but I always know which rose is which.. only trouble I have is with photos from earlier years, and I often cannot work out which rose I'm looking at, some long since forgotten..
@Nollie your garden is such a joy, so lovely to see your roses.
@Victoria Sponge you have such a wonderful variety of potted roses, I am intrigued by Florence Delattre and seeing its colour.
I think there is a lot of fun in buying something a bit random and seeing how it turns out. It may or may not work out
I have been as good as a gumdrop this weekend and in between the downpours I managed to find spaces to plant all my potted daffodils when they have flowered. I also put 30 pots of bulbs in the green and perennials in the ground and created about 20 oxlips from a big plant I split and from weeding the brick path. Still got a fair bit to do, I ordered too many bulbs and plants last year, some of them had been sat around for months and a few had drowned/rotted.
Hope you all had a good long weekend