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Reasons to be cheerful 2023

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  • KT53KT53 Posts: 9,016
    It's only natural to object to a longer working life.  My wife would have been retiring at 60 then the government changed things and she had to work to 66.  Increasing retirement age by a year at a time, every few years is one thing, to increase by 6 years in one go is something else.
    It was caused by a muppet going to the European Courts to complain about the retirement age differential, and the court agreeing it had to stop.  The outcome was obvious, and it wasn't going to be to reduce the retirement age for men!
  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    was there ever a reason why women were allowed to collect their pensions before men?
    Devon.
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    @KT53 I too was due to retire at 60 but had it arbirtrarily moved to 65 and then I delayed taking the state pension for a year as they offered 10%+ per annum if I did.  OH and I are planning to live a long time - so much to do still - so we both elected to wait a year.  It'll cost 'em!
    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
  • Lizzie27Lizzie27 Posts: 12,494
    Yes, women were worn out by all the housework they had to do so were allowed to retire early to have a longer rest!
    North East Somerset - Clay soil over limestone
  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    edited March 2023
    but men tend to " go to work " for a greater proportion of their lives  , and women have historically always lived longer. 
    Hubby would have started getting his pension this week, having worked since he was 15. 

    Devon.
  • Lizzie27Lizzie27 Posts: 12,494
    You are right @Hostafan1, I was only joking. Women were however regarded as the 'weaker' sex so were allowed to retire earlier.

    When I was a pensions adviser, the average time a man lived for after retirement was only 7 years. Thankfully it's quite a lot longer now.
    North East Somerset - Clay soil over limestone
  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    Lizzie27 said:
    You are right @Hostafan1, I was only joking. Women were however regarded as the 'weaker' sex so were allowed to retire earlier.

    When I was a pensions adviser, the average time a man lived for after retirement was only 7 years. Thankfully it's quite a lot longer now.
    and some don't even make it that far
    Devon.
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    I was advised that, in general, men tended to marry women five years younger than themselves … so the theory was that if a couple retired at 60 and 65 they would be retiring roughly at the same time, so the wife would be at home to cook meals for the husband … I honestly believe there may be a fair amount of truth in that. 

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    edited March 2023
    I'm not sure how anyone who truly believes in equality can justify a different age for men and women to receive state pension
    Devon.
  • Lizzie27Lizzie27 Posts: 12,494
    You're right Dove, I'd forgotten about the 5 year marriage gap.

    I'm so sorry @Hostafan1, I didn't mean to be so tactless.
    As far as I know pension ages are equalised now.
    North East Somerset - Clay soil over limestone
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