@WhereAreMySecateurs ..thanks.. Oh jolly good.. hope it does well for you. I think it had a nice scent too.. myrhh ish or diesel, can't remember.. Like some Austins have that diesel/tar scent, Jayne Austin, Dame Judi Dench etc.. I like that scent very much.. not sure if Lolabelle has it, memory lapse on that. The tarry scent derives from an organic compound called Phenol found in some roses, as phenol is an extract of Coal Tar.. hence the smell..
@Alfie_ Yes I know young Darren from another forum... When he first started I offered some advice on roses if I remember.. I know he got several AB Fab roses to grow as a hedge. He's done very well for himself. I had to laugh once, he wanted to grow Mme Alfred Carriere in a pot... well, we wished him the best with that. I couldn't imagine, but I suppose anything is possible..
edit. @Nollie I just know you'll succumb eventually Nollie..
@newbie77 - aw my boys are on that page you linked with your camellia.
@Marlorena - lovely to see your posts again, great photos. Really enjoy the way you write about them!
The Ancient Mariner, its probably a combination of lack of sun and too many roses close together but I feel like it'll do much better given a big open space to grow into at the plot.
Thanks for the suggestions I'll have a look.
EDIT: that's funny that you suggested Himalayan Honeysuckle, that's a plant that we spotted, I think it was possibly at Painswick Rococo garden, or in the Japanese/Himalayan garden at Hardwood House. But OH spotted it and wondered what it was, thought it looked unusual.
I love Eglantyne WAMS. It has the most delicate look of all my roses and the cutest button. This is in its second season and I don't know if it will get sturdier but I have needed to keep its stems in check with a support. I have it in a spot sheltered from wind and heavy rain because of the fragile look of its petals but may not be necessary. Health good. I know I like the scent but cannot recall of what. Not at its fullest flush but best I can find right now
@Marlorena - wow no I had no idea you could put several in a pot. I have terracotta pots ranging from 40-50cm across. All are about same depth of around 45cm. Which sizes could accommodate two or three?
I experimented this year with some in a pot and they did really well in the season especially as both were bought as potted roses at the start of summer as appose to bare roots in Autumn. However, towards the end of the season they looked very unhealthy compared to ones of similar age in the ground. Here is PAOK in June:
And here it is in October:
Here is Chandos Beauty in June:
and here again in October with awful black spot:
How do you keep them healthy in pots? Also, what should I do with them after the season is over; are they ok left outside in pots or should I take them in the garage/shed? All my rose pots have good drainage with crocks and horticultral grit at the bottom plus they are on feet so wondered if that was enough for them to survive heavy rain in autumn and winter.
Looking at that amazing DA three rose pot I feel the urge to dig up the GO's I planted only the other day and put them in a pot! What diameter would you guess that pot is? Thanks for any of your expert advice!
@Mr. Vine Eye, when I opened that page in afternoon, I said so cute looking at your boys and thought they would be playing with youngest one this summer.
@Tack, @Marlorena, with your photos it is getting hard to resist buying any roses. I am telling myself, lets see how next summer goes and then decide. I am making a wish list for sure.
@Marlorena yes you can put more than one rose in a pot as David Austin do but what you have to be aware of is that if you do that with any of their roses your 5 year guarantee is null and void. So if your rose or roses die they wont replace them.
@Alfie_ you need a pot a minimum of 45cm wide by 45cm deep but the bigger the better for long term pot growth. You need to clear the leaves from around the surface of the pot of your roses. Remove all leaves that are infected with blackspot from your roses and disinfect your secateurs, if you use them, to minimise spreading the spores to other roses.
@WhereAreMySecateurs and @Tack, I also grow Eglantyne, love the colour and shape of the flowers plus the perfume. I find the foliage is rather sparse, despite feeding and manuring regularly but it is in full southfacing sun on a high border which is open to both east and west winds. The blooms do stay on surprisingly well despite awful weather, the last one's just finished flowering. I keep it pruned to about 3ft, as it's 2-3ft above the drive. It doesn't have or need any support.
Your boys will be growing along with your garden @Mr. Vine Eye! I'll bet you see a big difference in both since the photo was taken. I was going to suggest one of the purple foliaged actaeas for the replacement spot, for the tall flowers, very attractive to bees, scented, but 'see through'. The stems are still standing here but don't last all winter. I thought the suggestion of bronze fennel was good.
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Oh jolly good.. hope it does well for you. I think it had a nice scent too.. myrhh ish or diesel, can't remember.. Like some Austins have that diesel/tar scent, Jayne Austin, Dame Judi Dench etc.. I like that scent very much.. not sure if Lolabelle has it, memory lapse on that.
The tarry scent derives from an organic compound called Phenol found in some roses, as phenol is an extract of Coal Tar.. hence the smell..
@Alfie_
Yes I know young Darren from another forum... When he first started I offered some advice on roses if I remember.. I know he got several AB Fab roses to grow as a hedge. He's done very well for himself. I had to laugh once, he wanted to grow Mme Alfred Carriere in a pot... well, we wished him the best with that. I couldn't imagine, but I suppose anything is possible..
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@Nollie
I just know you'll succumb eventually Nollie..
['Bathsheba' on the right..]
@Marlorena - lovely to see your posts again, great photos. Really enjoy the way you write about them!
The Ancient Mariner, its probably a combination of lack of sun and too many roses close together but I feel like it'll do much better given a big open space to grow into at the plot.
Thanks for the suggestions I'll have a look.
EDIT: that's funny that you suggested Himalayan Honeysuckle, that's a plant that we spotted, I think it was possibly at Painswick Rococo garden, or in the Japanese/Himalayan garden at Hardwood House. But OH spotted it and wondered what it was, thought it looked unusual.
Hadn't come up again since then.
Is it ok North Facing?
And here it is in October:
Here is Chandos Beauty in June:
and here again in October with awful black spot:
How do you keep them healthy in pots? Also, what should I do with them after the season is over; are they ok left outside in pots or should I take them in the garage/shed? All my rose pots have good drainage with crocks and horticultral grit at the bottom plus they are on feet so wondered if that was enough for them to survive heavy rain in autumn and winter.
Looking at that amazing DA three rose pot I feel the urge to dig up the GO's I planted only the other day and put them in a pot! What diameter would you guess that pot is? Thanks for any of your expert advice!
@Tack, @Marlorena, with your photos it is getting hard to resist buying any roses. I am telling myself, lets see how next summer goes and then decide. I am making a wish list for sure.
@Alfie_ you need a pot a minimum of 45cm wide by 45cm deep but the bigger the better for long term pot growth. You need to clear the leaves from around the surface of the pot of your roses. Remove all leaves that are infected with blackspot from your roses and disinfect your secateurs, if you use them, to minimise spreading the spores to other roses.
Hope this helps.
I was going to suggest one of the purple foliaged actaeas for the replacement spot, for the tall flowers, very attractive to bees, scented, but 'see through'. The stems are still standing here but don't last all winter. I thought the suggestion of bronze fennel was good.