Good point there about tender roses @Marlorena since many of us are getting seriously into old roses and some of them can be a bit tender. I’ve lost three over winter - the china Mutabilis, Mutabilis II and climbing noisette Duchesse d’Auerstadt, good healthy specimens all, just couldn’t survive my climate.
Owd, DA do sell bush roses, both of the floribunda and HT variety if you look at their online offerings, but they are bred by others, not DA so clearly beneath their notice apart from at the cash register!
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
I’m not sure I agree re Ebb Tide tbh, I think it’s just a rose lacking in vigour and/or takes a long time to establish. None of my other flories have stubbornly refused to grow, despite all being treated exactly the same. This is mine, it arrived fairly hard pruned and is actually a sturdy little thing, just never got much above a foot..
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
@Digging-it I'm not sure to be honest, I'm a bit hit and miss at the moment, but maybe someone else can advise on that?.. or wait until March when I expect there will be something very similar - brand new !.. they like to do away with the competition when releasing new ones.
@newbie77 ... under normal circumstances anytime from November. I like to get them all done by mid Dec, as I don't garden anymore until late Feb. I'm a bit behind this autumn but I've managed to get most done and should be finished on time. I have a couple with good hips so I have to leave those until Feb.
Thank you. I am thinking of pruning earlier this year as that would fit better with my work life situation.
I managed to mow most of the lawn! Yey! I was hearing mowers sounding from nearby gardens, it was like a call of mowers, this is your chance, you never know when it starts to rain again... I wasnt really feeling that fit but couldnt resist that call of mowers lol
I've finally accepted that my Night Owl, bought as a bush, wants to be a climber and needs to be moved - I have a suitable place against a wall, no point fighting Nature! Now looking for a replacement, not sure of colour but something rich, and preferably highly scented. In the same bed are Astronomia, Apple Jack, Dusky Maiden and Tottering-by-Gently... I have a preference for single or semi-double flowers but would put up with a double flower if the fragrance was right! Repeat flowering a must! Looking at One in a Million, Wild Blue Yonder, Scented Garden, or Minerva or Proper Job at a push...the last two don't really do it for me form-wise but I gather fragrance is excellent? Any words of wisdom on any of these, as regards health/vigour/rain resistance (I have a Blue for You that just balls every time it rains and I hate it!) or any suggestions for varieties I may have missed much appreciated!
Having finally decided to purchase Lady Emma Hamilton rose I found out that it is now “retired” from David Austin’s catalogue. Does anyone know where I could still buy this lovely fragrant rose?
I would trying ringing/emailing C and K Jones, Cants of Colchester and Ashridge Nurseries. They are no longer allowed to bud or list them, but may have some old stock left over. I have managed to get several archived DA roses from these places. Fingers crossed for you. C and K Jones have been esp helpful and have been able to supply me with 3 or 4 discontinued ones.
There is also a Ukrainian woman who sells own-root roses that she grows herself from cuttings. I haven't tried her but she does send the correct (if of course ungrafted) roses, apparently. Her Facebook page is Tanya's Garden but it's just information, not a recommendation.
Also, Windlestone Nursery somewhere up north ship some discontinued potted DAs severely cut back, incl. Munstead Wood, The Dark Lady and Brother Cadfael. Mine arrived pretty terrifying-looking and I think I whined about it on here, but the plants have sent out new growth and are clearly alive. They don't list LEH on their site but again it might be worth contacting them.
There are also sightings in GCs of these roses potted, and people often post them to David Austin fan pages on Facebook (groups like David Austin Roses or Growing Romantic and David Austin Roses)... they always seem to be in Yorkshire or Bristol or other places far, far away from me, though.
Fantastic information WAMS, hope Digging-it manages to track one down. For those in Europe, looks like Agelrosen still has Lady Em and a good selection of old Austins in general:
Wild Blue Yonder - I wish I still had it but I've had to downsize considerably. Can't remember the scent, I think there was some but you wouldn't buy it for that. Very vigorous in poor dry conditions, healthy rose, very easy to grow.
Minerva - I had 2 both blackspotted too much for my patience but lovely scent, yes.
Scented Garden, one of my very best roses, scent is musky, blooms in flushes all season with hips to follow.
Some single/semi doubles for scent.. 1. Souvenir de St. Anne's - not the quickest off the blocks and liable to stay as a small shrub for some time. Delicious sweet scent. In singles/semi doubles we are relying on the filaments/stamens for the fragrance, rather than petals. The sweet scented Musk rose [R. moschata] via the Damask [R. damascena] is where it comes from.
2. Windflower [Austin].. I loved the scent on this, which took me by surprise but it also traces back to R. moschata. Thin wiry canes in early years, may need some propping up.
3. Sally Holmes.. A magnificent single flowered rose, with a pleasant scent. I can't recall how strong, my plant is young.
4. Wild Rover - a purple semi double Floribunda climber.. scented of cloves to my nose. 5. Forever Royal - ditto - scent is quite sweet to me, a wonderful shrub rose for the border.
@marlorena thank you! Scent is such a personal thing, my husband says Blue for You has a lovely scent but I can't detect it, yet I find Apple Jack smells lovely but he can't smell it! And the various rose nurseries have very different opinions on the scent of the same rose..... Wild Blue Yonder is listed as strongly scented which is why I was interested. Love both Windflower and Wild Rover, though not sure I should replace one "shrub" that wants to be a climber with another! I may be swaying towards Secret Garden, even though I already have two yellows in the same bed.....though having now found Forever Royal I may be in love....! Christmas is coming and my daughters keep telling me to stop buying "all the things" and give them a list....
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I'm not sure to be honest, I'm a bit hit and miss at the moment, but maybe someone else can advise on that?.. or wait until March when I expect there will be something very similar - brand new !.. they like to do away with the competition when releasing new ones.
I managed to mow most of the lawn! Yey! I was hearing mowers sounding from nearby gardens, it was like a call of mowers, this is your chance, you never know when it starts to rain again... I wasnt really feeling that fit but couldnt resist that call of mowers lol
https://www.agel-rosen.de/rose/4154-buy-lady-emma-hamilton/
I've had several of those you mention..
Wild Blue Yonder - I wish I still had it but I've had to downsize considerably. Can't remember the scent, I think there was some but you wouldn't buy it for that. Very vigorous in poor dry conditions, healthy rose, very easy to grow.
Minerva - I had 2 both blackspotted too much for my patience but lovely scent, yes.
Scented Garden, one of my very best roses, scent is musky, blooms in flushes all season with hips to follow.
Some single/semi doubles for scent..
1. Souvenir de St. Anne's - not the quickest off the blocks and liable to stay as a small shrub for some time. Delicious sweet scent. In singles/semi doubles we are relying on the filaments/stamens for the fragrance, rather than petals. The sweet scented Musk rose [R. moschata] via the Damask [R. damascena] is where it comes from.
2. Windflower [Austin].. I loved the scent on this, which took me by surprise but it also traces back to R. moschata. Thin wiry canes in early years, may need some propping up.
3. Sally Holmes..
A magnificent single flowered rose, with a pleasant scent. I can't recall how strong, my plant is young.
4. Wild Rover - a purple semi double Floribunda climber.. scented of cloves to my nose.
5. Forever Royal - ditto - scent is quite sweet to me, a wonderful shrub rose for the border.
'Sally Holmes' [at Peter Beales rose garden]