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ROSES: Spring/Summer 2022 🌹

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  • Lizzie27Lizzie27 Posts: 12,494
    No idea what the Rose's are, think there's one or two climbers and one rambler, mostly pinks and reds. As it's a rented property she can't drill into the concrete for wires so we've tried to make do with the random nails already there. Not ideal. 
    North East Somerset - Clay soil over limestone
  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    It's odd that Paul Z knows he's got an international audience. He shouldn't give out rules based on living in the southern US.
  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    @Fire I can attest to the fact that it’s  true in hotter climates where many roses suffer in all day sun (like on my south-facing wall of death) although some classes can take it better than others. PZ also made a sweeping statement that all modern roses are disease-free so not to worry about air-flow and pack ‘em in! I like Jason’s approach better as he often qualifies his advice re climate, since it varies so much even across the US.
    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    I prefer Jason too - he seems more aware that people from all over the world are following him, from Alaska to Bangkok. I got into a right old mess at the beginning trying to follow Paul's advice about pruning - presenting it all as 'easy as pie'. It is, unless it isn't. And yes, the statement that nobody needs to worry about disease and air flow with modern roses is too broad.

    A lot of people - like me - are getting pretty much all our gardening learning from the internet, and our own trials and errors, so it's good to hear specifics and caveats - not just the encouragement that it's all just so easy. NGS and allotment visits are so useful to quiz growers. I will try and do some more courses at Dixter this year.
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    ..I was just going to add that it's probably appropriate for Nollie's climate rather than ours..

    .. you did a great job @Lizzie27 that's quite a nice garden for rental, I like the high walls etc..
    East Anglia, England
  • Lizzie27Lizzie27 Posts: 12,494
    Thanks @Marlorena - it appeared that the previous owner, a widow, really loved roses so planted lots, many far too close together so I removed some. My daughter needed a stepladder to clamber onto the top tier of the retaining wall and has hopefully planted a honeysuckle and sowed wild flower seeds up there. I was forbidden to try it! I'll do a harder prune next winter I think.
    North East Somerset - Clay soil over limestone
  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    I think whatever you read you have to filter according to your own growing conditions, not just climate, but aspect, soil etc. You do learn to do that after a while, especially when things fail or don’t go to plan. It is tricky for new gardeners to wade through and sort the wheat from the chaff tho, whether the topic is growing roses or tomatoes!
    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
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