@edhelka Beautiful photos. Did you really plant that aster last evening? It looks great, which one is it? I have a similar one with dark stems called ‘Glow in the dark’. It’s grown huge, so I’m training it as a climber 😃.
Last AUTUMN, sorry It was 1l plant, so I haven't expected much this year but it established nicely. It is Symphyotrichum 'Prairie Purple'.
I dont have many HTs either but what I have observed is you could train or sort of tie or wrap around obelisk any rose with less stiff and long canes and try to grow as climber but where along the cane it will flower is something each rose has in its habit.Â
Still not much enthusiasm to do anything in garden. I guess now that kids have started school, I need to focus on my office work for 1-2 weeks and then I will long for that mental break in garden.
@WhereAreMySecateurs if you do get Ivor’s Rose at any point, just to say it grows into a big sprawling shrub, wider than it’s tall and in need of some support, a bit like one of it’s parents, Bonica. Mine has thrown out long, splayed canes on either side which are conveniently resting on nearby rosemary bushes!
Well the roses have survived, tonnes more rain in my absence, apparently. Pots needed some water but still looking ok. The two Marie Pavies flanking my door are looking especially good, I tend to just snap this one because it hints at things behind..
A Munstead Wood (own root) and The Prince duo getting cosy:
Munstead Wood (older shrub, grafted):
Lady of Shallot has grown very tall!
Missed lots of Lady Hillingdon blooms but a few still present and more to come:
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
Re the climbing non-climbing discussion, here’s my take..
@Fire Buff Beauty can be left to it’s own devices to form a big arching shrub, or easily trained as a climber and most grow it as the latter. Takes up some space and more though, someone who occasionally pops in on this thread posted a huge climbing BB spreading along many fence panels last year, but can’t remember who..
As Mr. V says, if you grow a shrub rose as a climber, then yes prune as you would a climber.
There is such a big genetic crossover between HTs, floribundas, shrubs etc. after such intensive breeding and crossing over the decades, if any rose has sufficiently long and flexible canes, regardless of what class the breeder puts them in, you can do so and they should produce laterals. Soul is a shrub rose I have successfully espaliered as a short climber and it produces loads of laterals thus more blooms. Many DA roses can be grown either way as we know.
An HT bush such as Deep Secret with it’s thick, stiff canes wouldn’t work, but some of the modern, shrubbier HTs with more flexi canes, well, maybe, but it could be that the tip bearing imperative is so strong it wouldn’t produce laterals even if you bent them near horizontal. I think that was what M was meaning if I interpreted it correctly.Â
A ‘climbing HT’ like EdeH is a bush rose that had once sported long canes exhibiting the tendency to climb which have then been propagated on to produce a climbing version for sale. So that’s a different beast and not the same as trying to make the original HT bush rose climb.
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
Lady H would be more yolky yellow for you WAMS, judging by online photos from the UK, things do pale out here, just spotted this one near the back which has a bit more colour:
And a Dee-Lish, young canes are very bendy for an HT, maybe I should tie one down as an experiment!
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
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Can't believe PAOk is out again.
It was 1l plant, so I haven't expected much this year but it established nicely.
It is Symphyotrichum 'Prairie Purple'.
Still not much enthusiasm to do anything in garden. I guess now that kids have started school, I need to focus on my office work for 1-2 weeks and then I will long for that mental break in garden.
Unknown white climber
Sheila's PerfumedÂ
Patio rose
And Love Knot
A Munstead Wood (own root) and The Prince duo getting cosy:
Munstead Wood (older shrub, grafted):
Lady of Shallot has grown very tall!
Missed lots of Lady Hillingdon blooms but a few still present and more to come:
@Fire Buff Beauty can be left to it’s own devices to form a big arching shrub, or easily trained as a climber and most grow it as the latter. Takes up some space and more though, someone who occasionally pops in on this thread posted a huge climbing BB spreading along many fence panels last year, but can’t remember who..
As Mr. V says, if you grow a shrub rose as a climber, then yes prune as you would a climber.
There is such a big genetic crossover between HTs, floribundas, shrubs etc. after such intensive breeding and crossing over the decades, if any rose has sufficiently long and flexible canes, regardless of what class the breeder puts them in, you can do so and they should produce laterals. Soul is a shrub rose I have successfully espaliered as a short climber and it produces loads of laterals thus more blooms. Many DA roses can be grown either way as we know.
An HT bush such as Deep Secret with it’s thick, stiff canes wouldn’t work, but some of the modern, shrubbier HTs with more flexi canes, well, maybe, but it could be that the tip bearing imperative is so strong it wouldn’t produce laterals even if you bent them near horizontal. I think that was what M was meaning if I interpreted it correctly.Â
A ‘climbing HT’ like EdeH is a bush rose that had once sported long canes exhibiting the tendency to climb which have then been propagated on to produce a climbing version for sale. So that’s a different beast and not the same as trying to make the original HT bush rose climb.
With perhaps a red for contrast.
Speaking of, I hope @Tack's wedding hosting has gone off brilliantly and that her amazing roses all played their roles beautifully.
And a Dee-Lish, young canes are very bendy for an HT, maybe I should tie one down as an experiment!