@betth Welcome and Thank you, I don't know anything about DA roses except they're expensive and I didn't own any before. I've seen Lady Emma Hamilton colour/form/scent at the entrance of DA Garden for the first time and that's it, all my attention has gone towards DA roses.
@Nollie Thank you. Unfortunately I can't detect much scent from The Prince, WS2000 or Falstaff( except once). Is it just me ?!
@Marlorena Your WildRover won me over and I am getting this winter for sure. Elizabeth is beautiful. How do you find the scent on it please?
@Eustace LEH is expected to be back in stock by October 2022. May be you should attempt.
Harlow Carr: Finally this rose seems to be growing upright and not floppy. The stems are holding the blooms nicely and it's in second year.
Jude the Obscure - Lovely fruity scent and I like the flower form.
I have been sent this rose instead of The Generous Gardener. I was bare root and flowered for the first time. I remember seeing similar pictures. Please help to identify if that's possible.
I cant think of anything I have been so indecisive about in my adult life as roses. I just don’t know enough have seen so few of the possible thousands “in the flesh”
@Rojas .. I hope you like Wild Rover.. ..the scent on Elizabeth seems to get better with age, but I won't lie and say it's strong, more like medium sweet, sort of an old rose scent. I have had many roses much stronger in scent but it's pleasant enough, that's the main thing.
.what makes you think that's not The Generous Gardener?.. where did you get it from?
@Marlorena it is my shed not my house . old protected coachhouse and what is better than rambling roses against an historic building of around 1800😉. @Fire totally aligned , one day I’m saying a and the next day b, c back a. I just can not decide ….
Charles Empereur throwing out an octopus cane. Max height 100 cm ???
@Fire totally aligned , one day I’m saying a and the next day b, c back a. I just can not decide ….
Roses take years to establish properly and I have a small garden. I don't like getting rid of plants ("trying them out") and don't have a huge budget.
I am settled on Cream Abundance and Buff Beauty (unexperienced) this winter; fingers crossed that they grow as per the pics. Ramblers seem to need daily deadheading to keep them looking ok and blooming.... Not exactly low maintenance. But maybe that ship sailed long ago....
Edith might have to go and I will move Flander Rose. Sigh.
I cant think of anything I have been so indecisive about in my adult life as roses. I just don’t know enough have seen so few of the possible thousands “in the flesh”
I was surprised how valuable it was seeing my new local rose friend's garden. I touched the thorns on Harlow Carr, saw tall Falstaff was compared with floppy old Munstead Wood, sniffed Pretty Jessica (repeatedly), saw how heat-distorted her second flush of Amazing Day was, saw how bright Ab Fab was (lovely but totally outclassed by Graham Thomas beside it), etc etc. And I admired her spiky, ruffled dahlia, before realising it was a rose- Grace.
Going back this weekend, armed with offspring and cake, and am definitely going to take a notebook!
It has helped make up my mind on so many roses I had been hesitating over.
It's a very odd thing to buy a plant "sight upseen" as it were, online. I imagine nobody would have done such a thing before 20 years ago - or even 10.
I've never been to a rose nursery - DA, TW, PB. I'm not near any RHS gardens. I have been to Sissinghurst but not in May/June and I think they tend to have older roses.... But even when we do see roses in person, there's no guarentee it will do anything similar in our own garden conditions....
I don't think it's unusual... 40 years ago I was buying roses, sight unseen, just we did it via mail order catalogues. No idea what the roses looked like, just went by the names, and the colour picture.. received a whole bundle of bare roots in the post, just like we do today.. the only catalogues I recall were from Beales and Austins.
On one occasion I visited a rose nursery in Kent, walked their rose fields, all labelled, and picked out and wrote down the ones I wanted, ordered and paid for bare root delivery, at the desk.
Well that was the way of it going way back, you checked out the catalogue and filled in the form at the back. Often just going by a description with no photos.
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@Nollie Thank you. Unfortunately I can't detect much scent from The Prince, WS2000 or Falstaff( except once). Is it just me ?!
@Marlorena Your WildRover won me over and I am getting this winter for sure. Elizabeth is beautiful. How do you find the scent on it please?
@Eustace LEH is expected to be back in stock by October 2022. May be you should attempt.
Harlow Carr: Finally this rose seems to be growing upright and not floppy. The stems are holding the blooms nicely and it's in second year.
Jude the Obscure - Lovely fruity scent and I like the flower form.
I have been sent this rose instead of The Generous Gardener. I was bare root and flowered for the first time. I remember seeing similar pictures. Please help to identify if that's possible.
.. I hope you like Wild Rover..
..the scent on Elizabeth seems to get better with age, but I won't lie and say it's strong, more like medium sweet, sort of an old rose scent. I have had many roses much stronger in scent but it's pleasant enough, that's the main thing.
.what makes you think that's not The Generous Gardener?.. where did you get it from?
old protected coachhouse and what is better than rambling roses against an historic building of around 1800😉.
@Fire totally aligned , one day I’m saying a and the next day b, c back a. I just can not decide ….
I was surprised how valuable it was seeing my new local rose friend's garden. I touched the thorns on Harlow Carr, saw tall Falstaff was compared with floppy old Munstead Wood, sniffed Pretty Jessica (repeatedly), saw how heat-distorted her second flush of Amazing Day was, saw how bright Ab Fab was (lovely but totally outclassed by Graham Thomas beside it), etc etc. And I admired her spiky, ruffled dahlia, before realising it was a rose- Grace.
Going back this weekend, armed with offspring and cake, and am definitely going to take a notebook!
It has helped make up my mind on so many roses I had been hesitating over.
On one occasion I visited a rose nursery in Kent, walked their rose fields, all labelled, and picked out and wrote down the ones I wanted, ordered and paid for bare root delivery, at the desk.
Here's David Austin's catalogue from 1965.. edit 1982 I think it should be..
https://archive.org/details/davidaustinrosesrosenurserywolverhamptonukahandbookofroses1965/page/n1/mode/2up
..this is James Veitch and Sons catalogue from 1912-13..
https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/208205#page/3/mode/1up
..many we still grow, most disappeared. Lots of interesting information to go with it too..