@dabolem thank you, I did not know that. I put this in a bed with manure and added rosefood, and got yellow foliage, munted petals.. so I have been feeding it extra Tomorite. Oops. It's Eyes for You. It did do much better last year when I wasn't able to garden much, come to think of it. Lightbulb moment. Thank you.
Loving the reviews, I still mostly have austins so I can't impart much that folks won't already know, but Harlow Carr and PAOK are both on borrowed time for me, unless they show a bit of vigour and bloom more. Reines des violets is nice , but her blooms are a bit on the small side, I will give her another year. Stand out improvers from last year that have massively improved in year 2 are Darcey Bussel and the the ancient Mariner. Jacque Cartier has been my favourite new comer, maid marion is too sparse with her blooms and going at the end of year, I've already chucked st ethelburga in the bin as it was a diseased mess. Overall, I think its been a great summer so far for roses and the garden in general.
@dabolem, maybe it’s a mix of the two or just pure chance with the sawflies then, who knows! My Astronomia gets morning sun only and most of that is shaded by an olive tree, so yes should be fine in dappled shade.
My feeding has been a bit chaotic for the last two years because getting hold of good rose food has been difficult, but normally I would mulch with manure in winter, give a balanced, slow-release feed in March and again June, then when buds are forming for a flush I additionally feed with a liquid high-potassium feed to encourage blooming. I don’t liquid feed when they go dormant in the heat of July/August. How much you need to feed I think depends a lot on your soil, I have very little soil with a high proportion of compost so it does need the nutrients topping up. I assume more food is needed with fast-draining sandy soil, perhaps very little for a rich, loamy clay soil?
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
Popped to RHS Harlow Carr during my lunch : They are selling any Austins that have black spot at 50% off. It was quite shocking how many of the roses that covered: All of the Lichfield angels, Molinuex, some james Austins, mill on the floss, i lost count, it was a lot. The Thomas a beckets were so bad they were all 75% off. I was weak and bought a few...likely bringing bs to my currently healthy roses, but impulse is a silly thing.
I seem to have worse black spot this year than I can remember, but it may that I'm just paying closer atention. Barkarole is badly affected.
Jamain is also totally decimated, despite extra watering and feeing. Through August I will try deep regular watering and weekly tom feed and see if that makes any difference. I was watching this year and the BS started immediately after its big bloom subsided. Does that suggest it has a big burst of floral energy and then collapses? Or are fungal diseases just fungal and there is little we can do - not to do with the vigour of the particular plant?
With roses sulky like Jamain the advice is often to give "tlc" but I don't really know what that means. If I clip off spotted leaves now there would be nothing left.
It's the worst I've seen here too @Fire, at least for as far back as I can remember. My 'first and last' rose, 'Blush China' didn't really close down for the winter, (mild but damp) so I didn't prune it as well as I should have and the black spot seemed to start on that, on leaves that had grown over the winter. Susceptible roses like 'Chapeau de Napoleon' and 'Zepherine Drouhin' have it badly but even new roses have a few leaves affected. Sad to see.
'Plaisanterie' mingling with clematis montana. Cheerful and free-flowering. A row of potted roses. A sort of a review photo. From left to right: 'Faustinia' - I like it a lot. The downside so far is thin blooming canes. Hopefully, it will get better. 'Agnes Schilliger' - A diseased weakling but fighting for its life. Very nice fragrance and unusual blooms. 'Starlet Melina' - Blooms are often hanging in a way that they end up hidden in the foliage. I need to go for some smarter. A lot of buds ready to flower though. Very hungry and thirsty plant, maybe because of the wide pot. Weird fragrance, medium to strong but not pleasant to me. 'The Prince' - I also have some thin floppy canes. Some breakage from the recent winds, I need to cut that. Chives self-seeded in a gap in concrete... I hate these gaps and cracks but at least it's chives and not that weedy geum.
I’m really happy with how Etoile and Crimson Glory are repeating this year - little and often.Â
— Malvern at its best. I just love this butter, vanilla, almost-toffee colour. Can’t get enough of it.Â
—- Dr Jamain. Typical colour for me. Gorg scent. Terrible health. In the wrong place. Has to go.Â
—- probably my fav rose that I have. Anon. I have grown Crème de la Crème next to it this year to see how they compare. My Cde la C has no scent that I can find - this year at least. The one pictured has a divine, strong scent. I think it is not the same rose. I would be upset to lose it. It had a grace. Lovely cup shape. Lasts well. Inherited. I think if everyone knew it, everyone would grow it.Â
— Moonlight - like a rambler.Â
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Long shot. You can see CG laterals growing high on the arch. I’m not sure when lots of canes become too many on the arch. Should I tie them down or prune them off? I’ve already tied in loads..
@Fire, I cut my tall laterals on top of my arch off as and when, I'm now using a long handled pruner instead of a stepladder - safer for me. It gets too congested and the wind is a problem here sometimes.
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My feeding has been a bit chaotic for the last two years because getting hold of good rose food has been difficult, but normally I would mulch with manure in winter, give a balanced, slow-release feed in March and again June, then when buds are forming for a flush I additionally feed with a liquid high-potassium feed to encourage blooming. I don’t liquid feed when they go dormant in the heat of July/August. How much you need to feed I think depends a lot on your soil, I have very little soil with a high proportion of compost so it does need the nutrients topping up. I assume more food is needed with fast-draining sandy soil, perhaps very little for a rich, loamy clay soil?
My 'first and last' rose, 'Blush China' didn't really close down for the winter, (mild but damp) so I didn't prune it as well as I should have and the black spot seemed to start on that, on leaves that had grown over the winter. Susceptible roses like 'Chapeau de Napoleon' and 'Zepherine Drouhin' have it badly but even new roses have a few leaves affected. Sad to see.
A row of potted roses. A sort of a review photo.
From left to right:
'Faustinia' - I like it a lot. The downside so far is thin blooming canes. Hopefully, it will get better.
'Agnes Schilliger' - A diseased weakling but fighting for its life. Very nice fragrance and unusual blooms.
'Starlet Melina' - Blooms are often hanging in a way that they end up hidden in the foliage. I need to go for some smarter. A lot of buds ready to flower though. Very hungry and thirsty plant, maybe because of the wide pot. Weird fragrance, medium to strong but not pleasant to me.
'The Prince' - I also have some thin floppy canes. Some breakage from the recent winds, I need to cut that.
Chives self-seeded in a gap in concrete... I hate these gaps and cracks but at least it's chives and not that weedy geum.
Malvern at its best. I just love this butter, vanilla, almost-toffee colour. Can’t get enough of it.Â
Dr Jamain. Typical colour for me. Gorg scent. Terrible health. In the wrong place. Has to go.Â
probably my fav rose that I have. Anon. I have grown Crème de la Crème next to it this year to see how they compare. My Cde la C has no scent that I can find - this year at least. The one pictured has a divine, strong scent. I think it is not the same rose. I would be upset to lose it. It had a grace. Lovely cup shape. Lasts well. Inherited. I think if everyone knew it, everyone would grow it.Â
Moonlight - like a rambler.Â
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