@cooldoc I haven't seen it in person, only got the photo. I asked but my mom wasn't able to describe it. On Kordes website: Pear, apricot, peach, rose, jasmine, floral. HMF: Strong, apricot or peach, cinnamon, clove, fruity, geranium, spice, tea fragrance. It could be a nice mix. Not available in the UK but TCL has it.
Reviewing the performance of my roses too. All first year roses so not sure how much repeat I will get from most of them. They have all been healthy so far, but sure that will not last forever.
Rose de Rescht: excellent all round - form, foliage and flowers all complementary with each other. Has been free-flowering. Strong damask scent with a spicy undertone.
Jacques Cartier: also free flowering. Larger blooms than RdR. Showy individual blooms. Some minor yellowing of leaves. Excellent pure damask fragrance.
Chapeau de Napoleon: growing quite vigorously with an untidy habit. I plan to grow it over a small wall when it is larger. Only two flowers formed, but they are lovely, with a long period of interest due to the crested buds. Excellent fragrance - like an old fashioned rose perfume.
Danae: sprawling habit. yellow flowers are attractive and profuse, but minimal fragrance. Probably will replace because, though I do like it, there are other things I covet more, and I have only so much space.
Stephanie D'Ursel: objectively this is a nice rose, but not really doing anything for me for some reason. Large semi-double blooms, HT habit with a moderate what I think of as typical hybrid tea scent. Will probably replace.
Jean Stephenne: came as a weedy bare root specimen from Peter Beales and struggled to get going. It did put out a cluster of flowers eventually. Little fragrance. Likely will replace.
Blush noisette x2: growing one up each side of a large arch. Profuse clusters of very attractive small flowers. Flowering continuously. Should keep the garden looking great all summer even when other roses are between flushes. Individual flowers have a light musky scent, but en masses are quite powerful.
The Country Parson: a little disappointing. The flowers are only briefly yellow before quickly fading to off white. The shrub struggles to support itself and is untidy. Fantastic exotic fruit fragrance, but may replace it.
Amanda Paternotte: unexpectedly has the strongest fragrance of all of the roses. Typical Portland damask. It has grown the most vigorously of all of them too, already exceeding the 90x90cm Trevor White claims for it. Upright and tidy despite that. Lovely and charmingly wonky-shaped flowers.
Sidonie: the most floriferous so far, other than blush noisette. Had a large second flush well on the way already before rain spoiled a lot of the buds. Unusual shade of shell pink. Tidy and upright. Strong typical Portland damask scent.
Moonlight: growing up a 9ft obelisk. Being outcompeted by sweet peas I also planted under the obelisk. In retrospect I wonder if it's offspring, Guirlande D'Armour, would have been better for an obelisk. Light musk fragrance, though I imagine, like BN, they will be strong en masse.
Gertrude Jekyl: growing up a 7ft obelisk. Unfortunately being shaded by a wild elder tree which has suddenly sprung up in my neighbour's garden. Vigorous growth, but few flowers. Those flowers it has had were beautiful, with a strong half damask/ half earl grey scent which is pleasingly balanced. The flowers have tended to form on the inside of the plant, covered by leaves as I have tied it to the pillar. Is this typical for GJ or just bad luck?
Honorine de Brabant: growing up a 7ft obelisk. Another one that came small and weedy from PB. It has not flowered, but has now started to grow a bit more vigorously after initially having mottled yellow leaves. I read it often flowers best in the autumn, so perhaps I might still get flowers this year.
Boule de Neige: growing up a 7ft obelisk. Fantastic perfectly formed white flowers, which are still coming. Tidy and slim habit, which has made it easy to train. Has a strong delicious fragrance of 1/3 damask and 2/3 pure sweetness - I am not sure what to compare it to. The blooms hold up surprisingly well to rain, though there has been a little browning recently.
I have already ordered the following as bare roots for the autumn. Not entirely sure yet how I am going to fit them all in. I found this year that TW roses were consistently larger and more vigorous than David Austin roses, which in turn were better than PB, so this time have ordered exclusively from TW.
Bouquet de la Mariee Indigo Miranda Mme Zoetmans Reine des Violette's Rose du Roi Yolande D'Aragon
Discandied- I also have Bouquet de la Mariée on preorder and it will be good to compare my one with yours next year. Agree about Trevor White. I have been looking at getting Chapeau de Napoleon as the freaky foliage looks fab in the photos.
My GJs (so far free-standing but want to add an obelisk in the middle) do not have inwards-facing blooms but the new Ferdinand Pichard does. Don't know what causes that.
My order for next year: Bouquet de la Mariée William Shakespeare 2000 Evelyn Sombreuil Liliana (Poulsen 1997)
From DA I still need Tottering by Gently
I'd like a standard... currently looking at Jubilee Celebration, Amazing Day or a bold purple or orange.
I also hope to try a TCL order and stock up on climbers and ramblers, plus Odyssey, Stormy Weather, Sibelius and more yellow/orange roses. Someone on here had a Louis de Funès that looked just my thing.
And don't want proportion of DAs to get too high but may add the old DA Pretty Jessica from TW in honour of my very bad dog Jessica, who will probably just eat it tbh.
@Discandied nice mix of old and new roses.. How did you find the repeat on Amanda P and Sidonie? HMF mentions them as one main flush with scattered blooms later..
edit; just now saw that all are 1st year roses.. perhaps towards end of season you can tell us...
@Discandied nice mix of old and new roses.. How did you find the repeat on Amanda P and Sidonie? HMF mentions them as one main flush with scattered blooms later..
edit; just now saw that all are 1st year roses.. perhaps towards end of season you can tell us...
It's a bit too soon to say for sure yet - they are only just finishing the first flushes - but so far Sidonie started developing a large second flush (but got hit by rain) and Amanda hadn't shown anything (but did not start the first flush until a couple of weeks after Sidonie, so may just be behind). As first year plants any rebloom will be a bonus, really.
Very nice to read detailed personal reviews of roses. This is immensely helpful for everyone reading this forum/thread.
I think I might not get rid of anything this year, want to give some more time to existing roses to see how they do. I am not planning to buy anything except Evelyn so everything can stay where they are.
Roses new to me this year Chippendale: Happy with this one, like the colour and bloom form, shrub is nice shape too. Amour de melone: Growing really tall with bunch flowering on top. Will prune hard and see what happens next. Princess Charlane de Monaco: I had read it was like Abraham Darby but healthier. So far it is nothing like that. Grace: Usual David Austin apricot rose, nothing special but nice. The Prince: Love the colour and fragrance. Shrub still underdeveloped. Eustacia Vye: Nice pink flowers and fragrance. Sunshine Babylon eyes: Lovely bright orange flowers but they fade to pink. Elizabeth: Nice pink rose but I am liking Eustacia V more than this. Bring me Sunshine: Very disappointing. I didnt need that colour rose and wasnt expecting to it get so much mildew.
I would add - my third season or so of Moonlight (rose mentioned by another above). I’m happy with it. It kind of acts like a repeating rambler for me, three plants happily covering a six x ten ft piece of fence now. Small, single flowers. I don’t train it as I mostly just want it to bush up and cover that section of the boundary. Seems like it’s always covered in a few blooms through out the year - first to arrive, last to go. I am having to get used to constantly dead heading these rambler-style plants - kind of every day. They can look ugly without. I think they would enjoy a weekly deep watering and would be explosive then, but I haven’t. In a big garden, like Pete’s you would just leave it to climb and do it’s thing.
I put in New Dawn in the winter (also to cover fence) and the ex blooms look really scraggy. I’m going to invest in a long arm snipper tool thing.
“I think I am out of the "I want as many different rose varieties as possible" phase. At the moment, I would prefer more of bigger/show-stopper roses. I would like to make space for more climbers but that's almost impossible”
I couldn’t agree more, I would love lots of big climbers and shrubs, more scale and abundance rather than the bittiness of lots of smaller roses. I have plenty of physical space but few planting holes or opportunities for climbers on my hot rocky terraces with measly soil. I’m also fed up of having to make raised beds in order to plant anything, that then need endless watering! Next time I’m buying a large field with deep soil that coincidentally comes with some sort of dwelling attached!
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On Kordes website: Pear, apricot, peach, rose, jasmine, floral.
HMF: Strong, apricot or peach, cinnamon, clove, fruity, geranium, spice, tea fragrance.
It could be a nice mix. Not available in the UK but TCL has it.
Rose de Rescht: excellent all round - form, foliage and flowers all complementary with each other. Has been free-flowering. Strong damask scent with a spicy undertone.
Jacques Cartier: also free flowering. Larger blooms than RdR. Showy individual blooms. Some minor yellowing of leaves. Excellent pure damask fragrance.
Chapeau de Napoleon: growing quite vigorously with an untidy habit. I plan to grow it over a small wall when it is larger. Only two flowers formed, but they are lovely, with a long period of interest due to the crested buds. Excellent fragrance - like an old fashioned rose perfume.
Danae: sprawling habit. yellow flowers are attractive and profuse, but minimal fragrance. Probably will replace because, though I do like it, there are other things I covet more, and I have only so much space.
Stephanie D'Ursel: objectively this is a nice rose, but not really doing anything for me for some reason. Large semi-double blooms, HT habit with a moderate what I think of as typical hybrid tea scent. Will probably replace.
Jean Stephenne: came as a weedy bare root specimen from Peter Beales and struggled to get going. It did put out a cluster of flowers eventually. Little fragrance. Likely will replace.
Blush noisette x2: growing one up each side of a large arch. Profuse clusters of very attractive small flowers. Flowering continuously. Should keep the garden looking great all summer even when other roses are between flushes. Individual flowers have a light musky scent, but en masses are quite powerful.
The Country Parson: a little disappointing. The flowers are only briefly yellow before quickly fading to off white. The shrub struggles to support itself and is untidy. Fantastic exotic fruit fragrance, but may replace it.
Amanda Paternotte: unexpectedly has the strongest fragrance of all of the roses. Typical Portland damask. It has grown the most vigorously of all of them too, already exceeding the 90x90cm Trevor White claims for it. Upright and tidy despite that. Lovely and charmingly wonky-shaped flowers.
Sidonie: the most floriferous so far, other than blush noisette. Had a large second flush well on the way already before rain spoiled a lot of the buds. Unusual shade of shell pink. Tidy and upright. Strong typical Portland damask scent.
Moonlight: growing up a 9ft obelisk. Being outcompeted by sweet peas I also planted under the obelisk. In retrospect I wonder if it's offspring, Guirlande D'Armour, would have been better for an obelisk. Light musk fragrance, though I imagine, like BN, they will be strong en masse.
Gertrude Jekyl: growing up a 7ft obelisk. Unfortunately being shaded by a wild elder tree which has suddenly sprung up in my neighbour's garden. Vigorous growth, but few flowers. Those flowers it has had were beautiful, with a strong half damask/ half earl grey scent which is pleasingly balanced. The flowers have tended to form on the inside of the plant, covered by leaves as I have tied it to the pillar. Is this typical for GJ or just bad luck?
Honorine de Brabant: growing up a 7ft obelisk. Another one that came small and weedy from PB. It has not flowered, but has now started to grow a bit more vigorously after initially having mottled yellow leaves. I read it often flowers best in the autumn, so perhaps I might still get flowers this year.
Boule de Neige: growing up a 7ft obelisk. Fantastic perfectly formed white flowers, which are still coming. Tidy and slim habit, which has made it easy to train. Has a strong delicious fragrance of 1/3 damask and 2/3 pure sweetness - I am not sure what to compare it to. The blooms hold up surprisingly well to rain, though there has been a little browning recently.
Bouquet de la Mariee
Indigo
Miranda
Mme Zoetmans
Reine des Violette's
Rose du Roi
Yolande D'Aragon
My GJs (so far free-standing but want to add an obelisk in the middle) do not have inwards-facing blooms but the new Ferdinand Pichard does. Don't know what causes that.
My order for next year:
Bouquet de la Mariée
William Shakespeare 2000
Evelyn
Sombreuil
Liliana (Poulsen 1997)
From DA I still need Tottering by Gently
I'd like a standard... currently looking at Jubilee Celebration, Amazing Day or a bold purple or orange.
I also hope to try a TCL order and stock up on climbers and ramblers, plus Odyssey, Stormy Weather, Sibelius and more yellow/orange roses. Someone on here had a Louis de Funès that looked just my thing.
And don't want proportion of DAs to get too high but may add the old DA Pretty Jessica from TW in honour of my very bad dog Jessica, who will probably just eat it tbh.
@Discandied nice mix of old and new roses.. How did you find the repeat on Amanda P and Sidonie? HMF mentions them as one main flush with scattered blooms later..
edit; just now saw that all are 1st year roses.. perhaps towards end of season you can tell us...
I think I might not get rid of anything this year, want to give some more time to existing roses to see how they do. I am not planning to buy anything except Evelyn so everything can stay where they are.
Roses new to me this year
Chippendale: Happy with this one, like the colour and bloom form, shrub is nice shape too.
Amour de melone: Growing really tall with bunch flowering on top. Will prune hard and see what happens next.
Princess Charlane de Monaco: I had read it was like Abraham Darby but healthier. So far it is nothing like that.
Grace: Usual David Austin apricot rose, nothing special but nice.
The Prince: Love the colour and fragrance. Shrub still underdeveloped.
Eustacia Vye: Nice pink flowers and fragrance.
Sunshine Babylon eyes: Lovely bright orange flowers but they fade to pink.
Elizabeth: Nice pink rose but I am liking Eustacia V more than this.
Bring me Sunshine: Very disappointing. I didnt need that colour rose and wasnt expecting to it get so much mildew.
“I think I am out of the "I want as many different rose varieties as possible" phase. At the moment, I would prefer more of bigger/show-stopper roses. I would like to make space for more climbers but that's almost impossible”
I couldn’t agree more, I would love lots of big climbers and shrubs, more scale and abundance rather than the bittiness of lots of smaller roses. I have plenty of physical space but few planting holes or opportunities for climbers on my hot rocky terraces with measly soil. I’m also fed up of having to make raised beds in order to plant anything, that then need endless watering! Next time I’m buying a large field with deep soil that coincidentally comes with some sort of dwelling attached!
I think most of the forum regulars would join you in that wish. 😆