.yeah, they like to sell it as 'thornless'.. most of it is, except those prickly flowering shoots. ..Strictly speaking, and only the fussy are this strict, but all roses are thornless, as they have prickles, not thorns.  Thorns emanate from within the stem, prickles, as on roses, start on the surface.
...nice Wild Edric blooms @Omori  I think you have lots of roses to show us this year..
@WhereAreMySecateurs ..I've just noticed your question about obelisks.. well you can put it over a rose, as long as you can insert it deep enough to make it stable. You need stone free soil to make things easier. Mine is full of big stones, so I have to dig first. ..So, I prefer to place an obelisk to the side of a rose, rather than over the top but that's a personal preference too.
@Marlorena  I decided to make a more suitable support for my Charles de Mills, it just didn't look right on an obelisk (now used to support a rather lanky Gertrude Jekyll). Hopefully the canes will get a bit stiffer and less whippy over time. New shoots are finally beginning to show lower down which will make it look better and hide the structure a bit.
Yeah. Roses that don't do well for no obvious reason. Can be the location, can be the plant (bad from the beginning), can be a bad start to life for whatever reason. You certainly remember my 'Astronomia'.
'Souvenir de St. Anne's' is doing well for me. 4ft wide, 2ft tall, maintenance-free. I have it in a sunny position. I like the blooms, I think they shine when the sun shines through them, but absolutely can look muddy in shade or in bad weather. When I was in the front garden, I took a photo of this mossy guy ('James Veitch'). A nice curiosity to have, nothing to rave about though.
To show something bad too, this rose ('Agnes Schilliger') is dying. It had a bad blackspot last year, also on the canes, and a lot of die-back over the winter. The die-back goes all the way down on two of the canes. I think it will give me a flush of blooms and then it will give up. 'Mrs. Herbert Stevens, cl' didn't do much last year. But it has a ton of buds now. Waiting to see if then decides to decline or grow.
Anyone has roses that are "shine brightly, burn quickly" plants? Flowering and growing like mad in their 1st season, then getting diseased badly almost overnight, dying back over winter and slowly declining in their 2nd season? Seems to happen to me with some roses, mostly potted ones.
I see your Purple Skyliner is doing brilliantly back there @edhelka as does most things in your colourful garden..
I'm trying to think of one that answers your question but can't at the moment.Â
@peteS .. well, if I can be a touch honest, I think it would be better without any support, because it's being constrained somewhat. If allowed to do its own thing - i.e. flop - it will naturally produce more laterals, therefore more flowers for you.. right now it's mostly at the top..  still, you'll see some nice blooms this summer..
I hear what you're saying @Marlorena, but it was just too floppy, any blooms on show would've been on the ground. This way, maybe next year the canes will be somewhat stronger and able to offer better support. But you're right, there are quite a few buds forming now so it is looking very promising for a decent display in a few weeks time.
I’ve just asked this on the general ‘problem solving’ section of the Forum, but then realised I should be asking the experts!  Can anyone advise me on this white mottling emerging along the central veins of this St Swithun climber. A few white fly in evidence. Â
@Super gardener ...there just rose slugs [sawflies], if you turn the leaf over you'll see little white things on the backs of the leaves, they cause the damage.  It's benign and nothing to worry about. I get it on nearly all my roses here and there... just try to ignore it..
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..Strictly speaking, and only the fussy are this strict, but all roses are thornless, as they have prickles, not thorns.  Thorns emanate from within the stem, prickles, as on roses, start on the surface.
...nice Wild Edric blooms @Omori  I think you have lots of roses to show us this year..
..I've just noticed your question about obelisks.. well you can put it over a rose, as long as you can insert it deep enough to make it stable. You need stone free soil to make things easier. Mine is full of big stones, so I have to dig first.
..So, I prefer to place an obelisk to the side of a rose, rather than over the top but that's a personal preference too.
@Marlorena
 I decided to make a more suitable support for my Charles de Mills, it just didn't look right on an obelisk (now used to support a rather lanky Gertrude Jekyll). Hopefully the canes will get a bit stiffer and less whippy over time. New shoots are finally beginning to show lower down which will make it look better and hide the structure a bit.
You certainly remember my 'Astronomia'.
'Souvenir de St. Anne's' is doing well for me. 4ft wide, 2ft tall, maintenance-free. I have it in a sunny position. I like the blooms, I think they shine when the sun shines through them, but absolutely can look muddy in shade or in bad weather.
When I was in the front garden, I took a photo of this mossy guy ('James Veitch'). A nice curiosity to have, nothing to rave about though.
To show something bad too, this rose ('Agnes Schilliger') is dying. It had a bad blackspot last year, also on the canes, and a lot of die-back over the winter. The die-back goes all the way down on two of the canes. I think it will give me a flush of blooms and then it will give up.
'Mrs. Herbert Stevens, cl' didn't do much last year. But it has a ton of buds now. Waiting to see if then decides to decline or grow.
Anyone has roses that are "shine brightly, burn quickly" plants? Flowering and growing like mad in their 1st season, then getting diseased badly almost overnight, dying back over winter and slowly declining in their 2nd season? Seems to happen to me with some roses, mostly potted ones.
I'm trying to think of one that answers your question but can't at the moment.Â
@peteS
.. well, if I can be a touch honest, I think it would be better without any support, because it's being constrained somewhat. If allowed to do its own thing - i.e. flop - it will naturally produce more laterals, therefore more flowers for you.. right now it's mostly at the top..  still, you'll see some nice blooms this summer..
...there just rose slugs [sawflies], if you turn the leaf over you'll see little white things on the backs of the leaves, they cause the damage.  It's benign and nothing to worry about. I get it on nearly all my roses here and there... just try to ignore it..