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  • ViewAheadViewAhead Posts: 866
    steveTu said:
    I know I bang on about AI - and this IS a globally political post (@waterbut) but I watched that Storyville BBC prog on AI and deep fake last night.
    ...ok, it has a titillating title, but the story was insane and the power to destroy people's lives needs to be curbed. Governments have got to speed up to keep up with change and start to realise what the world is facing (pun intended). This is just one aspect of the changes that will hit everyone's lives.

    The gov won't step up.  There's huge money behind AI.  Protecting individuals is not their central concern.  Look at all the terrible harms that go unchecked in the name of big business - junk food, social media, surveillance capitalism, vaping, the list goes on. 


  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219
    They have to do something. That prog - and if I got it right - showed how effective deep faking is as the prog itself was a deep fake. But it was 'real'. How then, with things like chatgpt and deep faking will anyone be able to ascertain what is 'real' at all? You may be a bot, I may be a bot - inconsequential at this level you would think, but what if a ground swell of ideas were to be planted across a whole variety of inconsequential chats and links to what appear to be real events?
    We already know how good the big tech companies are at judging changes in feelings by what is searched for - but what if that is turned around and they force the change by trickle feeding 'real' stories?


    UK - South Coast Retirement Campus (East)
  • ViewAheadViewAhead Posts: 866
    I have no doubt they will.  It is all about control and a great way to break down people's resistance and societal bonds is to flood the internet with fake stuff so people don't know what to believe.  It increases paranoia and isolation, making it far less likely groups will coalesce to successfully fight against it. 

    No one is going to stop them.  Short of turning off the internet, no one can.  This is how life will be going forward.  
  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219
    That has been my concern about governments and politics and the stupid trend nowadays to become insular with the 'make blah great again' crap. All the issues we face are vastly tooooo big for countries. These are world issues. Pointless legislating for AI, pollution, plastic, CO2...etc here, if that's not echoed around the world. We need outward facing politicians, not those who dwell on alleged past glories (that never existed).
    UK - South Coast Retirement Campus (East)
  • ViewAheadViewAhead Posts: 866
    Individual govs aren't really in control of events.  It is the few behind the large tech companies who are deciding how the world works.  Unfortunately, they are not democratically elected and cannot be removed from power.  The best outcome from here may be that AI gets beyond their control and they too become bound by its strictures.  Would I rather live in a world run to the vision of Zuckerberg, Gates and Bezos ... or in one run by AI?   Either way, democracy may become irrelevant, a quaint idea from the past. 




  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219
    I think you'd be surprised if you watched the storyville prog. It isn't about big tech - just about people who are technically savvy who are using the tools that are proliferating around the world. I would guess that the tools are open source - so simply available to download (modify if required) and use. They then become 'criminals' (even though there appear to be few laws in whichever country to prosecute on) just using a tool they can get for free.

    UK - South Coast Retirement Campus (East)
  • ViewAheadViewAhead Posts: 866
    I haven't seen that episode yet, but the earlier Storyville prog iHuman was very enlightening on AI's potential. 


  • wild edgeswild edges Posts: 10,497
    edited 8 February
    Over on iNaturalist there is a project called 'Never home alone' where users are encouraged to add their observations of wildlife that they found inside houses. Everything from fungus up to large animals. It's an international website and observations from other countries can be considerably wilder than the things we usually encounter here. Someone even posted an alligator that they found in their garage :#  It's an interesting project to follow but while I envy the lizards and moths from warmer climes, and I could probably deal with a bathroom being invaded by crabs, I will admit that I'm glad I don't have to worry about some of the insects that are posted. :/

    If you can keep your head, while those around you are losing theirs, you may not have grasped the seriousness of the situation.
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    We get an occasional lizard in warmer seasons.

    Spent part of my morning at the vet's while Cosmos pussy had his annual eco-cardiogram.   New lady took over the surgery 18 months or so ago and identified a heart murmur when she checked him over for his annual jabs last year.    €112.   He's fine with no worsening of his condition but when she shaved him under the armpits for the scanner dooberry she found 2 extra wounds in addition to the mauled paw that has him on antibiotics.

    He really must stop "playing" with the farm cats!!
    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
  • wild edgeswild edges Posts: 10,497
    If you can keep your head, while those around you are losing theirs, you may not have grasped the seriousness of the situation.
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