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  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    edited July 2023
    Obelixx said:
    'Appen, like many other things, art is in the eye of the beholder @Dovefromabove and the modern/abstract/conceptual stuff is a visual language that not everyone understands or is bothered about trying to learn if it has no relevance to their lives.

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    Absolutely understood @Obelixx 
 conceptual art is a quite specialised area; but why is it then, that so many people who don’t understand it, and haven’t, as you put it, been bothered to learn about it, still feel as if they can pontificate about it as if their views have some validity?

    Would it be so difficult to say ‘I don’t understand it’ ?

    I accept that I have very little  understanding of computer programming for example (ok none whatsoever) 
 therefore I wouldn’t dream of telling a computer programmer that a particular specialism in computer programming is wrong, or not even proper computer programming. 

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • KT53KT53 Posts: 9,016
    The problem if you say you don't understand it is that somebody is likely to prattle on for ages trying to explain it, you'll be none the wiser at the end, and will have lost hours you can never get back.
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    Prattle?  Why so pejorative?  Would a scientist or an economist be described as ‘prattling’ about their subject I wonder?  :/



    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • Busy-LizzieBusy-Lizzie Posts: 24,043
    @Obelixx both Gardeners World magazine and the RHS magazine said they couldn't send them to me anymore in France because of Brexit.

    NDN has a goat willow, quite a big tree, that hangs over our Norfolk garden and we have been told that we can't prune it because it's a conservation area.
    Dordogne and Norfolk. Clay in Dordogne, sandy in Norfolk.
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    @Busy-Lizzie my last issue was the May magazine recieved in May before I left to go to Chelsea so clearly it is do-able tho, apparently, some areas of France have more officious PO services than others and they delay delivery or just bin the magazines.   i shall have to give the RHS a prod about the June and July issues as I shall be in need of reading matter in the next few weeks.

    How's your OH and his hip?

    @Dovefromabove I am quite happy to be viewed as a Philistine because I don't get the bricks/bed/cow and feel I should be allowed an opinion based on what pleases my eye/brain/soul.   Kind of the same thing with music - I love many kinds but just don't get opera.   As for IT - having worked in IT many moons ago, but left just as PCs but not yet Windows were coming in, I can sympathise about some of the apparent lack of transparency for the end users.   If I want to drive a car I don't have to know how the engine works, just how to turn on the ignition, fill the tank and check the oil and tyres.  It should all be "simples".


    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
  • raisingirlraisingirl Posts: 7,093
    actually engineers and scientists are frequently dismissed as irrelevant or wrong by those who don't like what they say
    Gardening on the edge of Exmoor, in Devon

    “It's still magic even if you know how it's done.” 
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    edited July 2023
    @raisingirl  you said “
 Kind of the same thing with music - I love many kinds but just don't get opera 
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    but I’m sure you don’t say ‘it isn’t music’. 
    😊 



    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    That was me @Dovefromabove and given the effect of a soprano on my ears (pain) I might sometimes argue it isn't music.

    Have to agree with @raisingirl about scientists being dismissed all too often.
    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
  • plant pauperplant pauper Posts: 6,904
    Your seedlings are probably coming from one of my trees @Obelixx. Yes there are many and they drive me nuts. If you don't lift the prunings within a couple of hours they send up shoots! Poxy things. 
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    Ah my apologies @Obelixx and @raisingirl 🙂

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





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