@KT53 my point was that the shell mosaics were invited. The artist did her own house and then some neighbours did a bit round their doorframes and others asked her to do whole walls. Same with the painting on the silos - invited.
That's a lot different from some eejit with a spray can defacing public or private property or people defacing historic sites.
As for what is art and what is not, that's a philosophical debate for someone else.  I do not understand piles of bricks or unmade beds or cows cut in half and esecially not why people would pay for them.  On the other hand, I have seen some really good paintings by people like Picasso and Salvadoor Dali before they discovered that "weird" would sell better.
@Obelixx I agree with you. I have no problem with artwork where the property owner wants it, even if I'm thinking "What is that!". It's the eejits that I also object to. If caught they should be forced to return the area to it's pre-graffiti state, irrespective of cost. That could cost a few quid at the Colosseum.
I donât suppose anyone would say to a scientist âthatâs not scienceâ ⊠but it seems that anyone can tell an artist âthatâs not artâ. đÂ
There's science and there's science. Stuff that is claimed that is wrong. Science is (should be)provable though in as much as the results should be recreatable (if it is not recreatable it is bad science or non science) - that should be the point. IE it should not be subjective but based on evidence and proof. It is based on studying the object. In effect science is just a documenting system - ie this happens under these conditions. Science does not invent things (it cannot create things that can't be created). Science appears to be the study and documentation of cause and effect.
I don't understand your reference to the emperor's new clothes. What does this have to do with whether or not you like a piece of art?
Clothes are art aren't they (https://www.artworks.com.sg/news/is-fashion-art/)? They have fashion shows to show them. The emperor bought his clothes because he was told they were great (much like some other art buyers - they buy not because they like the object, but because they're told it is good or has value). His view of his 'art' was fine as long as his 'delusion' wasn't broken by people pointing out he'd bought a pup (or a an imaginary pup).
Many people buy art simply because they love it. If they buy because they are told it is good, but they don't understand why, that does not mean that it is not good at all, as you seem to imply.
Bloody wind - not posters comments but the real thing. What the lack of rain failed to decimate, this hot drying wind is doing its best to complete the job
I'm grumpy because I've lost patience with the RHS and given up my membership. Since we moved to Ireland I've rarely used my membership - in fact, just once when visiting a "partner garden" in the UK - so my only perk was the monthly magazine, which I really liked. However, the RHS seem incapable of sending the magazine at the right time, or sometimes at all. They try to make out this is because they are a charity; but we get other charity publications from the UK with no problem. My April RHS magazine never arrived; the May one came on June 3rd, and the June issue on June 28th. Enough is enough.
Since 2019 I've lived in east Clare, in the west of Ireland.
Charity or not, once they take your money on the basis of supplying something, they are just as responsible for supplying that item/service as anybody else. Their Director General is paid around £200k. Why do charities have to pay such ridiculous wages?
'Appen, like many other things, art is in the eye of the beholder @Dovefromabove and the modern/abstract/conceptual stuff is a visual language that not everyone understands or is bothered about trying to learn if it has no relevance to their lives.
@Liriodendron - I too have problems with my RHS magazine and have complained.  They usually then send the missing magazines but not older than 3 months for some reason.  I don't want to read it online, can't use the Seed scheme or visit gardens and the monthly shows and events so getting the magazine on time isn't much to ask.
I've also told them that commercial magazines such as GW, GH, Homes and Gardens etc have an overseas subscription rate to cover the extra P&P so they could consider that if the problems are based on cost but there also that there are so many UK publications with overseas subscribers that it shouldn't be that hard to find a reliable distributor.  They've said they'll think about that one.
This pm's curmudge? Goat willow. We don't have one anywhere on our plot yet I keep finding babies sprouting in my pots or on the edge of the pond.  Where's it coming from and why aren't plants I want so keen or easy to grow?
Just chased a muntjac out of the garden. We haven't seen the roe deer since April but I noticed a chewed grapevine this morning so wondered if she was back. Then I saw the muntjac under the apple trees this afternoon, grr!
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I didn't have the prescibed dose, that is only part of the problem. The rest is as I described above.
@Obelixx I agree with you. I have no problem with artwork where the property owner wants it, even if I'm thinking "What is that!". It's the eejits that I also object to. If caught they should be forced to return the area to it's pre-graffiti state, irrespective of cost. That could cost a few quid at the Colosseum.
@Liriodendron - I too have problems with my RHS magazine and have complained.  They usually then send the missing magazines but not older than 3 months for some reason.  I don't want to read it online, can't use the Seed scheme or visit gardens and the monthly shows and events so getting the magazine on time isn't much to ask.
I've also told them that commercial magazines such as GW, GH, Homes and Gardens etc have an overseas subscription rate to cover the extra P&P so they could consider that if the problems are based on cost but there also that there are so many UK publications with overseas subscribers that it shouldn't be that hard to find a reliable distributor.  They've said they'll think about that one.
This pm's curmudge? Goat willow. We don't have one anywhere on our plot yet I keep finding babies sprouting in my pots or on the edge of the pond.  Where's it coming from and why aren't plants I want so keen or easy to grow?
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