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  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219

    I am not saying there is no art - but the opposite - as it is subjective, it is open to the viewer to decide what is art and what isn't. Everything/anything then is potentially art.
    There are two values. Cost - ie how much does something take to make, and then the value someone is willing to pay for what is made.If someone is willing to pay anything for an unmade bed or a pile of bricks or... then that is up to them - it's their money. The emperor's new clothes eh (well, to my taste anyway)?

    UK - South Coast Retirement Campus (East)
  • I don't understand your reference to the emperor's new clothes. What does this have to do with whether or not you like a piece of art?
  • KT53KT53 Posts: 9,016
    @Obelixx that is not graffiti, at least not in the way the term is generally used in the UK.  Those will almost certainly be commissioned artworks, as would the painting of the telecomms boxes in Finland.
  • KT53KT53 Posts: 9,016
    Maybe 
 

    If it’s done for free it’s not valued by most folk and regarded as graffiti/vandalism 

    but


    If it’s commissioned by a committee and paid for out of public funds it’s a mural. 




    @Dovefromabove thank you for confirming my point.  The former is generally done without permission of the property owner.  The latter is requested and paid for.
    Whether either has any artistic merit is another argument completely.
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    How do you know it’s done without the owners’ permission?  


    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • KT53KT53 Posts: 9,016
    I opened a pack of my prescription tablets and discovered two tablets had been cut from the strip.  There was nothing either on the packaging or the bag the prescription was in to indicate this had happened or why.
    I went into the pharmacy today to find out how and why this had happened.  I said from the outset I didn't need the missing tablets but wanted answers to 'how and why'.  The pharmacist simply repeatedly asked if I wanted the tablets!  When I said my concern was that if it has happened once it could have happened before I just got a blank look.  I got no meaningful answers to why it happened, why there was nothing on the pack to indicate tablets had been removed or why the pack had been returned to the general stock.
  • LynLyn Posts: 23,190
    I always get cut strips and odd 2’s.  The prescription is for 56 and the strips are 10 each so they cut the odd ones off,  sometimes I get several 2’s where they’ve been cut off from others. 
    Gardening on the wild, windy west side of Dartmoor. 

  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    That happens frequently here 
 as long as you have your prescribed dose what’s the problem? 😊 

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219
    I don't understand your reference to the emperor's new clothes. What does this have to do with whether or not you like a piece of art?

    Clothes are art aren't they (https://www.artworks.com.sg/news/is-fashion-art/)? They have fashion shows to show them. The emperor bought his clothes because he was told they were great (much like some other art buyers - they buy not because they like the object, but because they're told it is good or has value). His view of his 'art' was fine as long as his 'delusion' wasn't broken by people pointing out he'd bought a pup (or a an imaginary pup).

    UK - South Coast Retirement Campus (East)
  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    If the intention to produce a piece of art is present, it's art - even if it's bad art.
    A two year old's finger painting is art but if the cat steps in a paint pot and walks across a piece of paper, it isn't art unless the owner dips its paw in and shoos it across the paper.
    In London. Keen but lazy.
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